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Quick Nexus 7 Comments By Linus Torvalds

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Re: Quick Nexus 7 Comments By Linus Torvalds

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My main disappointment is with the lack of Flash. Flash is still needed on a lot of websites and every time I've needed it it's a reminder that Adobe has cost Android one of its big advantages over iOS.

Easily remedied: http://www.geardiary.com/2012/07/20/how-to-get-amazon-prime-.... Just installed it today on my N7 and Amazon Prime video works surprisingly well.

Re: Quick Nexus 7 Comments By Linus Torvalds

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I'd almost buy one. No HDMI out, no SDMicro slot, and no USB support, has put me off until the next thing better comes along. I'm annoyed that Google has crippled this device.

Same here, I wanted to buy one then found out it had no USB device support.

Hu? It has USB support - get an OTG adapter.

It won't mount USB Flash drives out of the box, but that's why you root it and install stickmount.

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Why don't manufacturers compete on quality instead? I can walk into a store and see the Apple computers on one side and the Windows computers on the other. All the Apple computers look and feel beautiful, but the Windows computers are plastered with stickers and 'Beats by Dr Dre' branding. They're made out of what looks like the cheapest plastic ever. I can understand why Apple is absolutely killing it at the moment…

Lenovo certainly does compete on quality, it just aims for a different set of quality seekers. Apple targets people who want their computer to look pretty. Lenovo targets the people who want to get stuff done. Want to quickly scroll through a document? page up/page down/home/end buttons? Lenovo's got it. Want to change the volume easily and still have access to f1-f12? Lenovo's got dedicated buttons for it. Spill you…

Lenovo is awesome, except they seem to pride themselves in having the worst displays on the market. It's downright bizarre.

Re: Quick Nexus 7 Comments By Linus Torvalds

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Completely OT, but I'm really starting to like G+. I deactivated my FB account (reactivated because of a girl--go figure), and found myself browsing G+ for the first time in months. I was shocked by the difference in content quality. My FB newsfeed is full of inane posts by family and a few friends, whereas my G+ feed is almost a reddit/HN replacement. Quite impressed, although I don't see it replacing FB simply due…

"whereas my G+ feed is almost a reddit/HN replacement" any suggestions for people like Linus who post well and often to G+ publicly?

Tim O'Reilly: https://plus.google.com/107033731246200681024/

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It's easy in July 2012 for Linus (or whoever) to say "why mess with stock android" as if it's always been as good as 4.1. These layers were built not just for differentiation but for base functionality/gloss that stock eclair/froyo/gingerbread lacked. And try not to be shocked but many users preferred those ui layers and those phones way outsold the stock phones head to head. Also it's vaguely relevant to remember th…

> These layers were built not just for differentiation but for > base functionality/gloss that stock eclair/froyo/gingerbread lacked. Certainly! But then Android got awesome. 4.0 is good, and 4.1 is great. But manufacturers like Samsung and HTC continue to ship their phones with 4.0 upgrades that aren't upgrades! For example: my brother's Galaxy Note. He recently got the 4.0 upgrade from Samsung, which required him t…

I'm planning to stick CyanogenMod 10 on my Note, so I agree to a degree but I'll point out that I got the ICS update over-the-air despite hearing lots of complaints about needing to use keis (a uk vs us thing?)I also wonder if "normal" people really want the UI of their phone to change radically after an update. I get the feeling that is part of the reason that iPhone remains superficially similar over multiple upgrades.

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> I prefer the Lenovo "nipple" over a touchpad but most people hate it The problem is that no one gives the TrackPoint a chance. I've seen people who've used ThinkPads for years and have never even touched the TrackPoint. But if you spend about 30 minutes working with it, you'll find that it's superior to both mice and trackpads for 99% of tasks (gaming being the one exception, for which I keep a mouse on hand).

I find that the nipple requires a little too much pressure (T500), which is a little tiresome. You can be really light to the touch with some touchpads (including simulated clicks.) I'd prefer a nipple more like a touchpad - something like you get on the Blackberries (not the old trackballs.)

You can change the sensitivity in the settings (and of course, there's the usual mouse-speed setting as well).

That said, I have found that some of the newer models have much more sensitive trackpoints than my T60.

Edit: Changing the cap can be useful as well. The concave tip in particular.

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Why should I go out of my way to fix a broken product? The appropriate response to a phone running broken software is ignore it and buy one built by someone competent. Buying a broken phone only encourages the manufacturer to make more, regardless of what you do with it after they have their $400.

It is not broken. It is old, and not being updated. If they had bought a windows phone those 2 years ago, they would be saying the same thing about their windows phone. But i agree that most android vendors suck at updates and should be avoided. But you should avoid their phones just as much when they are running windows. Really, only Apple is doing this right: you get the full ecosystem experience for at least two y…

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Same here, I wanted to buy one then found out it had no USB device support.

Hu? It has USB support - get an OTG adapter. It won't mount USB Flash drives out of the box, but that's why you root it and install stickmount.

My Nexus One phone let me install a 32 Gig chip, no root needed. Which reminds me, why would I want a tablet that even in the largest storage size is still 1) half the storage my Google phone has and 2) fixed, can't add larger chips or use an external usb device without rooting the phone?

I think Google is trying to force feed us using them as the cloud since people aren't buying Chromebook paperweights in the numbers they had hoped.

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Fair enough. Upon investigation, I've discovered there are a fair few OS X official system shortcuts which utilize function keys. But I think you're an edge case. Apple targets hard the average consumer, and there are plenty (my parents) who don't understand an arbitrary mapping of a number to a function. The self-explanatory icons (the speaker with lots of sound vs no sound, the universal play triangle, etc.) are fa…

Yes, I'm an edge case. I seek out a quality laptop that I can get work done on. That's what we are discussing, no? As for "saving space", huh? A thinkpad is the same size as a macbook - both are as wide as their screen plus a little extra. The thinkpad is just covered with ugly buttons instead of pretty metallic empty space.

Yes, but you're far more proficient. Those who plug away happily at 30WPM will not share your definition of quality.

I'll take a beautiful product that sacrifices minor functionality (in my case) for aesthetics. My point is not that a MacBook is right for you, but that Apple seems to have rightly assumed that most people don't care about the function keys, and spared the ugly buttons.

In any case, you're probably saving a grand every time you buy a laptop, so maybe the joke's on us.

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I agree, fewer buttons does not necessarily make a device simpler. There's a happy medium that I think Android hit with the four-button menu/home/back/search keys. Whenever I use an iPhone anymore I always cache-miss and try to find the hardware back button.

Not every screen needs a back button. You can't hide a hardware back button. I'm with Apple on this one. The back-arrow button in the toolbar reminds me I'm in a hierarchal app, and the label reminds me what the prior screen was. It's just the opposite for me: every time I use an Android I hunt around the screen for the software back button.

No but you can hide an OS-level software back button, like in any Android 4 phone that doesn't have hardware buttons.
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