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Have you used Kagi? It’s easily 10x if not 100x better than Google.
I'd pay $10 in a heartbeat if Kagi reliably used all my search keywords. But they don't, and I don't understand it. Just use all my words except stop words. I took the trouble to type them in. I don't care if your coverage isn't as good as Google in its heyday. "0 search results" should be a mark of pride now.
I've added a few, but I worry that adding more is counterproductive. Maybe it would help them prioritize if more people chimed in.
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Is $10 really expensive? For most people, no. Can you think of $10/m you spend on something less important than search? A couple coffees, a sandwich, HBO, Netflix, a drink, using two gallons of gas recreationally, etc
Most people I know can afford some of the luxuries you list, but only barely. If you have to choose between having a drink once a month at a place other than your own home, and having an ad-free search engine that actually works, you'll find that many people are thick enough to go for that drink. For context, this is speaking from the Netherlands, where housing is relatively expensive.
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Is $10 really expensive? For most people, no. Can you think of $10/m you spend on something less important than search? A couple coffees, a sandwich, HBO, Netflix, a drink, using two gallons of gas recreationally, etc
Most people I know can afford some of the luxuries you list, but only barely. If you have to choose between having a drink once a month at a place other than your own home, and having an ad-free search engine that actually works, you'll find that many people are thick enough to go for that drink. For context, this is speaking from the Netherlands, where housing is relatively expensive.
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You’re paying Google via the profile they have of you. Remember there’s no such thing as a free lunch while you’re feeling so superior
If you use Kagi and visit any sites with google analytics etc. then you are paying Kagi with your bucks AND Google with your profile. Oh and you can use Google completely anonymously. You can't do it with Kagi. All your searches go with your billing address (but you can trust Vlad they won't ever use it to profile you). Maybe the aura of superiority from paying $10 per month for something 99% ppl don't pay for blinds…
Your billing address is not something advertisers can use to track you. Sure, if you use Kagi to commit crimes you may not be anonymous to the police. But there are a lot of people who do not want to be profiled by ad networks, yet do not consider providing their billing information to be a privacy issue.
Your comment about "the aura of superiority" is dismissive and a little confrontational. The commenter you were responding to was clear about why he likes Kagi - better results. I agree with him.
I find that searches for product reviews and similar commercial terms have much higher quality results than google. I also find that I get better results when I am searching for errors or lines from logfiles. Even when quoted, I find that Google will often return results that partially match my quote ignoring the important part, which makes the search useless.
Long time Kagi subscriber here. I think their focus should be to reduce resource usage on their side and make servers cheaper to run. Not other shenanigans like t-shirt or FastGPT or whatever. They can then offer a more attractive price for general public, who has never paid for search before and gets caught in the headlights when they hear you pay. Because right now, they don’t even have 40k users and if it goes on…
With that said, they should of course reduce their operating costs when they can, just like any business.
How well does Kagi work for places outside the US and non-English languages? I've only ever seen it mentioned by US users, so I have no clue how support is elsewhere. I briefly tried duckduckgo and its non-US/non-english search results seemed to be lacking (though this was about 2 years ago).
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Have you used Kagi? It’s easily 10x if not 100x better than Google.
I have and stopped. A few people said that domain blacklisting is the killer feature worth $10. Well, actually it felt like paying to do work and locking myself in. You need to maintain those lists, new spam websites appear daily, and it does not really matter if you use precise queries. Most people don't know that Google is capable of them and Kagi capitalizes on them
1) Google now requiring special skill to use is a totally legitimate way in which Google is inferior
2) I'm actually quite good at Googling and know much of the advanced syntax -- still sucks as of a few years ago!
Obviously people's mileage may vary, but if anyone else is reading this and hasn't tried Kagi: you should. It is unambiguously and inarguably worth trying.
I used Kagi for a year. It was a great experience, no ads, decent search results. I quit recently, when I discovered that they integrate with Yandex. I think it is unacceptable in the todays reality. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42349797 https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...
What do you use now? I mix Perplexity and Google depending on the query, I wondered how that compares to Kagi. Yandex is a no-no for me as well
Kagi is a tough pill to swallow. Their search is hands down the best around, there's no other way around it. That being said, $10/mo is also expensive. The workaround I found is using Kagi Ultimate. I get access to Claude (and I'm still able to attach files + access a dozen other LLMs) for $25/mo, so I was able to cancel Claude and keep Kagi and get the best of both worlds from either product. Side note: incredible t…
Is $10 really expensive? For most people, no. Can you think of $10/m you spend on something less important than search? A couple coffees, a sandwich, HBO, Netflix, a drink, using two gallons of gas recreationally, etc