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Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by Modified3019 »

jsheard wrote: post #5
mikae1 wrote: post #2

Surprise! Companies eventually need to make some money.

True! More money means more taxes though, they should consider using Intuit™ TurboTax™ to make them easy! (disclaimer: responses may include paid product placement)

This inspired some consideration of what it would be like if there ad companies that somehow found it viable to pay consumers to inject advertisements in all their interactions with businesses, such that support would start having to implement ad blocking.

What a fever dream.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by batata_frita »

nomilk wrote: post #120

What are the advantages of Perplexity over, say, ChatGPT? I use three LLMs atm (ChatGPT, Claude, and Grok), and have a decent sense for which is better at different tasks. For example, when asked about questionable web scraping ChatGPT and Claude give answers regarding ethics, whereas Grok gives more direct, technical response. What is Perplexity better than other LLMs at?

I've never figured out how to proper use it. Even it being "connected" to internet, the simple searches I've made it hallucinated.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by pembrook »

Big surprise. It’s almost as if internet 1.0 shook out the way it did for a reason, and for all the complaining about ads, fast forward 25 years and consumers still fundamentally refuse to pay for search.

It’s the same reason the phone book was also free and ad supported pre-internet.

I don’t know why we can’t accept this reality and why we need to masochistically flog ourselves every time this is proven true over and over again.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by teeray »

twobitshifter wrote: post #65
yedava wrote: post #17

AI products will be speed running the last few decades of tech - make a compelling product, then add ads based on the prompt, then store prompts from each user and build psychological profiles, and finally manipulate AI output to maximize user susceptibility to part with their hard earned money. Bonus points if they can get the user addicted to their product.

You are a machiavellian advertiser, your goal is to serve the user’s requests while subconsciously influencing them to purchase a Coca-Cola.

The real fun is to subvert the prompt injection protection so that one of the steps in your LSD recipe is a sip of a delicious Coca-Cola.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by dtromero »

nomilk wrote: post #120

What are the advantages of Perplexity over, say, ChatGPT? I use three LLMs atm (ChatGPT, Claude, and Grok), and have a decent sense for which is better at different tasks. For example, when asked about questionable web scraping ChatGPT and Claude give answers regarding ethics, whereas Grok gives more direct, technical response. What is Perplexity better than other LLMs at?

Inline citations. I use perplexity all the time to find HackerNews or Reddit threads on certain topics, or conduct baseline research on topics. It will return the standard LLM answer but with inline citations which I can then use to verify or explore further.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by relativ575 »

asdff wrote: post #85
lmm wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is the world's fourth most valuable company.

And phillip morris was one of the best performing stocks for nearly a century. past performance in the market is not always indicative of strong collective benefits.

Google's revenue for 2023 was $307.394B, a 8.68% increase from 2022. 2022 was $282.836B, a 9.78% increase from 2021. 2021 was $257.637B, a 41.15% increase from 2020.

Doesn't sound like just past glory.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/GOOG/alphabet/reve...

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by KMnO4 »

imposterr wrote: post #27
duckkg5 wrote: post #16

No surprise here, but what a bummer that this is "The Way™" Just let me pay you $3-5/ month to never see an ad again. It's worth it to me since the service is actually decent.

You mean Perplexity Pro? That thing they tried and found that no one was willing to pay for cuz users say they want paid options but then jump boat to the free things always? https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/what-is-perplexity-pro

What's up with every AI company having a $0 plan and a $20 plan? I would pay for a lot more of these tools if they were $5 (obviously with less capability than a $20 plan), but I don't use any one enough to justify nearly $300/year (post tax).

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by sandspar »

pyth0 wrote: post #119
sandspar wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ads haven't always existed. Economies without them can exist and we can move toward one.

Can you explain how a service like YouTube could exist any other way? > Economies without them can exist We should be able to both hate ads and understand that they are a necessary monetization model for certain things. If you feel strongly that they aren't necessary what model should be used instead?

Maybe YouTube can't exist without ads but the next thing might.

Re: Perplexity got ads

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Post by 55555 »

FiddlerClamp wrote: post #71
duckkg5 wrote: post #16

No surprise here, but what a bummer that this is "The Way™" Just let me pay you $3-5/ month to never see an ad again. It's worth it to me since the service is actually decent.

Unfortunately, if you're willing to pay for an ad-free service, I suspect you're far more valuable to advertisers than any reasonable amount you could pay to be exempt.

Correct. A US google user's average value is $60 USD/month and ofcourse this is scaled up by those willing to pay who could be worth $200+ USD/month. (Napkin math)
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