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Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Re: Meta Wants More AI Bots on Facebook and Instagram

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Post by baggachipz »

InkCanon wrote: post #81
openrisk wrote: post #40

We need a tech hype that is not terminally tainted as an anti-human abomination. Is it too much to ask for? Surely those gazillions of GPUs can be deployed to do something actually useful ? Are we beyond redemption?

If anything causes the AI bubble to burst, it's that 99% of finding is going to companies that don't solve any real problems. It's shocking that the only major player in real world problem solving is DeepMind.

I'm going to say "when" and not "if" here, because of your assertion above. VC's spending multiple fortunes on shoehorning in shit that nobody wants or needs.

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Post by bluGill »

maxehmookau wrote: post #68

I quit FB 3 years ago. It's already riddled with bots, AI generated "content" and ragebait. If this doesn't push you away from it, what will?

I've been trying to block all that with some success. Not much - there are more meme groups for every niche subject than you would think and someone into that niche feels like they need to share them all.

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Post by SecretDreams »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #93

This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

We could call such an app "echo".

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Post by mrweasel »

nradov wrote: post #84
alex1138 wrote: post #11

Hey here's a novel idea Have social media websites be reverse chronological posts by friends/pages you follow instead of what AI thinks you're interested in (and yet somehow not explicitly following, yet you get it in your feed anyway)

Most users don't want reverse chronological feeds. They say they do but they really don't, and fail to appreciate how that would actually work. First, that would incentivize posting more low-value crap just to stay on the top of everyone else's feed. Second, if you don't log on for a while you're likely to miss some major life events (birth, death, marriage, divorce, move, new job) that people most want to see.

> They say they do but they really don't,

Probably depends on your usage pattern. I think most would prefer it, but "engagement" measurements will make it seem like they hate it, because they spend less time on the page. If companies like Facebook actually wanted to know, they'd make the setting "sticky" rather than constantly reset to algorithmic, then measure over 3 - 12 months how many switches to either one and stays there. The fact that you can set your feed to permanently be chronological tells me that Facebook REALLY doesn't want you do use this feature.

"Power users" may prefer the algorithm, due to the volume of posts they'd see, while many casual users prefer reverse chronological and then just check in every other week. Seriously the last year I was on Facebook, that was my usage. Block everything not posted directly by a "friend", sort by date, read the five posts from the past two week and logoff. Took me just a few minutes a week to catch up. I just don't think that usage aligns with Facebooks business model.

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Post by krapp »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #117
EcommerceFlow wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the average IG comment, a 300m parameter model should suffice.

Sounds about right, and we just elected GPT-2 president, so 1.5b parameters is an upper bound on what you need to impress most people.

Fake news. The president has so many parameters, you wouldn't even believe it. All the biggest, best parameters. American made parameters, best in the world, genius, genius parameters. You wish you had parameters like these.

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Post by Culonavirus »

EcommerceFlow wrote: post #93

This gave me a funny idea for a new social media app... One that's centered around "you" and filled with thousands/millions of LLM bots praising you, treating you like a celebrity, etc. Each of your posts will get tens of thousands of "likes", hundreds of comments, etc. Dm's straight to your feed, people wanting you, etc etc. If the newsfeed is already mostly "the algorithm", might as well take it to the extreme. I b…

I don't know, I feel like you have be a pretty low IQ person (I'm talking about the millions of people on the far left of the IQ bell curve) to consider any interaction with a bot as socially meaningful or stimulating (dopamine).

Maybe if you used some future LLM and hidden the "this is a bot" icon, more people would interact, but as it stands, only dumb people (and there's not that many of them, again, normal distribution) will buy into it. The kind of people who "fall in love with their AI girlfriend chatbot" would be your income stream. Lmao.

(Thinking about it now, I don't think I've ever heard about a female doing this... probably because the dumbest of us men are far dumber than any woman.)

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Post by hbn »

muglug wrote: post #70

Instagram just asked if I wanted to chat with a Hawk Tuah AI bot. To me that’s the clearest possible evidence that the product people over there have basically given up. It reminds me of when Facebook went all-in on Live Video in 2016 — a product direction that pretty obviously came from the top.

Facebook Live has seemed to be somewhat successful among MLM moms

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Post by FredPret »

paganel wrote: post #89
muglug wrote: post #70

Instagram just asked if I wanted to chat with a Hawk Tuah AI bot. To me that’s the clearest possible evidence that the product people over there have basically given up. It reminds me of when Facebook went all-in on Live Video in 2016 — a product direction that pretty obviously came from the top.

Facebook the app/website is already dead, as only boomers and people like me (not yet boomers but not young, either) are now its only remaining users, while IG is going into the same realm of irrelevance, mostly because millennials (its main audience) have spiritually become boomers-like themselves. As such, Meta is throwing everything at the wall hoping that something, anything, will stick.

You mean it’s a social network that advertises exclusively to people in their prime spending years?

Sounds like a roaring success to me. Looking at their financials, I’m right about that: https://valustox.com/META.

Our culture is obsessed with youth. But economically the young are not a great demographic to have frequenting your site:

- fashions change quickly

- they can be demanding

- they have no money

Contrast to a 40-60 y.o. with a net worth 100-1000x what it was when they were 19, and who are set in their ways, and one of those ways is to go on Facebook every day.

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