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How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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With my mechanical keyboard, I have had a tendency to break a few (specific) keys. I got around it by 3D printing a few blank keys. So long as I know where the N and M keys are, that's all that matters :)

How are you people breaking so many keys?!

Maybe they learned to type on a mechanical typewriter...

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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I was surprised at how little the author mentioned their actual experience using the laptop. Some things haven't changed and that's fine. I'm sure you can do word processing on that machine, but there are areas where you can't control the fact the rest of the world has moved on. How does the average website appear? Can you browse youtube? Can you actually log on to internet banking? Do you have to disable scripting on websites in general? How bad is the screen? What's the wifi speed like?

Also, given that this is the author's work laptop, what's the economic justification for not investing in the primary tool you use for work?

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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You actually don't have to dig too hard to find places where hundreds if not thousands of people are doing exactly this.

download tor, run tor, go to darknet forums of any kind. that's about the only use case I can think of for this approach, as well as where to find the few hundred people doing it. that said, wearing walmart pants and hoodies, a face mask, and using a $200 laptop you got off of gumtree or kijiji or craigslist or FB marketplace at coffeeshop probably works just as well. bragging and laziness gets you busted, not a lack…

Common use cases, are, "as a Developer / DevOps practitioner, I want for":

  - a client (company I do contract work for) sees a different source address that is different than the source address I use for casual browsing+posting.

  - two SaaS used for purposes of servicing agreement with "client" don't see the same source IP address as used for other clients.

  - a bank I use, and PayPal, always sees the same source IP address dedicated to my VPN account only and for this purpose.

  - the tunnel (VPN) provider I use for casual browsing+posting does not see the destination IP address of my client's VPN.

  - whatever first-hop ISP I use sees one single Wireguard tunnel and nothing else ever.

  - the first-hop Wireguard tunnel is paid for with a pre-paid debit card, but any outbound TOR traffic is encapsulated by a secondary tunnel paid for with crypto.

  - the TOR circuit used for browsing purpose A is not also shared by browsing purpose B.

  - any arbitrary outbound tunnel is specific to the container or VM I intended to use but doesn't carry, nor has any risk of carrying, any of my other traffic.

Tor is important to me because I have a right to read.

There is no crime within Common Law for any of the above. Nor is there any violation of any statute for which any of the above is, per doctrine of minimum contact (such as with a pre-paid debit card), within jurisdiction of statute.

Perhaps some users do operate with some concern of being "busted", but most users that do outbound network path management do not operate with this concern.

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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I don't think there is any middle ground left between thin and portable and all soldered and replaceable components and "transportable" instead of "portable". Gaming like laptops are a no no for me, sorry. And I doubt there's anything just slightly larger than a macbook pro but with upgradeable components.

Have you considered a Framework laptop? They have 13-inch and 16-inch models and are designed to be upgraded. https://frame.work/

I really, really, really wanted to like Framework, but for the type of work I do with a laptop (GPU / CPU / RAM intensive video editing) I can literally get a laptop with twice the performance of a Framework laptop for half the price. Not to mention Framework laptops only display option is a (admittedly decent) IPS panel, when miniled and OLED panels are becoming increasingly commonplace on devices that cost less and offer better performance. They have also not come out with a new GPU module since launch, and their current GPU offering is woefully under powered, especially given it's absolutely ludicrous $550 USD price tag and there are seemingly no plans for any more powerful GPU modules in the future. I love the idea of a repairable / upgradeable laptop, but I really can't justify spending twice as much for half the power just for the thus far unrealized promise of future potential.

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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I was surprised at how little the author mentioned their actual experience using the laptop. Some things haven't changed and that's fine. I'm sure you can do word processing on that machine, but there are areas where you can't control the fact the rest of the world has moved on. How does the average website appear? Can you browse youtube? Can you actually log on to internet banking? Do you have to disable scripting o…

> Also, given that this is the author's work laptop, what's the economic justification for not investing in the primary tool you use for work?

Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the obverse - Why should one buy a new laptop when an old one will do? Your framing sounds to me like a post-hoc justification for consumerism. Why not "invest" in getting the absolute best in the primary means of transportation, or couch, TV or random product category?

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

#127

I was surprised at how little the author mentioned their actual experience using the laptop. Some things haven't changed and that's fine. I'm sure you can do word processing on that machine, but there are areas where you can't control the fact the rest of the world has moved on. How does the average website appear? Can you browse youtube? Can you actually log on to internet banking? Do you have to disable scripting o…

> Also, given that this is the author's work laptop, what's the economic justification for not investing in the primary tool you use for work?

The author explains that there are motivations not related to money (we live on a finite earth, the manufacturing of a laptop encompass a considerable amount of energy and raw materials for mining, etc).

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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>I grumpily ordered a replacement key for 15 euros. A single key for 15€?! I remember ordering one from an online shop specialized in replacement laptop keys at some point in the 2010s and it was like 2€ total. Browsing through similar shops now, it seems like the minimum is 5€ per key nowadays, but still a far cry from 15€. >After spending more than 100 euros on plastic keys, which would soon break again, I calculat…

Even if it is, most of the keys are interchangeable. Your fingers don’t care that the M key has an N on it.

As a lifelong Dvorak user, for whom the keys I press have never produced the letters printed on them, it amuses me that the "M" key is one of only two exceptions (the other is "A").

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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I was surprised at how little the author mentioned their actual experience using the laptop. Some things haven't changed and that's fine. I'm sure you can do word processing on that machine, but there are areas where you can't control the fact the rest of the world has moved on. How does the average website appear? Can you browse youtube? Can you actually log on to internet banking? Do you have to disable scripting o…

> Also, given that this is the author's work laptop, what's the economic justification for not investing in the primary tool you use for work? Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the obverse - Why should one buy a new laptop when an old one will do? Your framing sounds to me like a post-hoc justification for consumerism. Why not "invest" in getting the absolute best in the primary means of transportation, or couch, T…

Come on now, even the author is pretty clear they're making compromises. Whether that's slower internet speed, lower quality display, worse battery or inability to run modern apps/web apps. There are a lot of ways in which this is making a trade off to priortize cost vs productivity. Sure, you can say all the ways in which the old laptop is inferior are unimportant, but I would atleast like to see some serious consideration of it.

Re: How and Why I Stopped Buying New Laptops (2020)

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LOL I posted this in the previous thread > I am still on my MacBook Pro 2015 because of the Keyboard and Trackpad. So in about 2 years time this will be 10 years of usage. I dont intend to replace it any time soon. For browsing it is fast enough. And if you look at the Louis Rossman Channels it seems newer MBP just aren't built the same. It may be worth looking at it again I 2025. How little ( or big ) the past 10 ye…

I'm still using my 2015 13" Macbook Pro. I bought it in April 2015, and I think I'll actually get ten years' use out of it. The form factor is still decent, and it generally runs cool and quiet, but the performance is nothing to write home about (shall we say). It's still useable, for now, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that nobody is optimising their software for this tier of system any more. You do have to…

I replaced my kid's 2017 mac she used through university last year. I expected it to be trashed - and turns out it is in reasonable shape. While it looks like this might be the last OS refresh for it, it felt usable. 16G of RAM probably went a long way. Cleaning it up for a second life.
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