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Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Post by iszomer » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:32 PM UTC

rectang wrote: post #106

rjh29 wrote: post #90

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Did America go straight from giving full credit card info to Apple Pay? Chip and pin and card contactless both solve that problem

I was talking about buying from online merchants. I’m less familiar with the security implications of chip-and-pin or contactless card for in-person transactions. Do those technologies prevent the merchant from getting raw CC info? Rightly or wrongly, I worry less about the security implementations of hardware point-of-sale terminals than the security implementations of small websites. I mostly prefer Apple Pay for i…

Bank of America automates the process of creating virtual cards for your account when you set up contactless payments such as Google Pay. It is not an anonymous service as the bank still keeps the transaction records and iirc, will occasionally sell or relinquish the data on request to 3rd parties or enforcement agencies.

Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:33 PM UTC

carlosjobim wrote: post #114

vouaobrasil wrote: post #44

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What you are supporting is local sustainability. The world would be better off with less global trade and more local productions. Local productions means a stronger community and more visibility for business practices, because it's more sustainable. If a global business decides to just toss all the plastic it uses it in its backyard you'll never notice because it's 2000 miles away. If Amazon decides to treat their wo…

The products sold in local stores are never produced locally. It's national or international products, just like on Amazon. Buying from local stores pays the salaries of local salesmen, that is a benefit for the community. But wouldn't the community benefit better if they did a job that was needed instead?

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Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Post by micromacrofoot » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:33 PM UTC

t-writescode wrote: post #19

InDubioProRubio wrote: post #7

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Imagine you are taxed to repair the roads, on which your untaxed competitors is driving too ruin you.. a nightmare.

We are taxed for road repairs. It's a common tax on gasoline here in the United States; and, yes, there is a known issue around this with electric cars and some efforts in place to try and rectify it.

we'd be better off rectifying why everyone thinks they need to drive some monster truck

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:36 PM UTC

iLoveOncall wrote: post #49

vouaobrasil wrote: post #44

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What you are supporting is local sustainability. The world would be better off with less global trade and more local productions. Local productions means a stronger community and more visibility for business practices, because it's more sustainable. If a global business decides to just toss all the plastic it uses it in its backyard you'll never notice because it's 2000 miles away. If Amazon decides to treat their wo…

> What you are supporting is local sustainability. The world would be better off with less global trade and more local productions. Local productions means a stronger community and more visibility for business practices, because it's more sustainable. This is true for the extreme minority of products that ARE produced locally. If you buy a screwdriver from the privately-owned DYI shop around the corner it will have b…

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Post by carlosjobim » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:41 PM UTC

sen wrote: post #10

ramon156 wrote: post #5

Had to buy some simple toolkit today. It was 5 bucks on Amazon, but I decided to find a local store that sells it. Same price btw. I think we should be a bit more aware about the impact of ordering everything through Amazon. Not only regarding delivery, but also the message it sends to local stores.

I needed some 3D printing filament a few days ago. Shopped around locally and the absolute cheapest was ~$50. Amazon was $17 with next day shipping. The overheads of physical retail stores makes it all but impossible for them to compete with online shopping. I’d love to “support local” but I don’t have the expendable income to spend double/more on everything. What we ideally need is more “local online businesses”, bu…

I think it's a mistake to look at the % price difference instead of the dollar price difference. It's a $33 dollar difference. Which is not much if you are a busy person, but a lot if you have time to shop around. If you're buying a motorcycle and it's $6200 at your local dealer and $6100 a couple of towns away, then you'd consider that difference negligible.

Every local business should be a "local online business" as you suggest. But most business owners don't give a fuck and are happy to see Amazon crush them. Why?

I used to try to support local business, but frankly it's such a waste of time to go looking for products that they never have in stock, ward off annoying salesmen who never have a clue if you actually need help, and dealing with bad return policies. The price difference is but icing on the cake.

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Post by infecto » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:41 PM UTC

vouaobrasil wrote: post #72

iLoveOncall wrote: post #68

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It is a bad thing. And you say it like it's a dichotomy. And I could certainly get most of the comforts of modern life with 5% of the force of globalization. House, food, bed, some reading material, etc. I don't really care for technology, and I use it because it's part of my work and livelihood. BUT, I could easily be just as happy living a simpler life. Believe me, I've already thought about it. I could be pretty m…

Please get off the internet then, destroy your computer and go live on a farm. I don't say this to be an antagonist but it is what you yourself is suggesting others do.

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Post by _yb2s » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:44 PM UTC

bdcravens wrote: post #42

ramon156 wrote: post #5

Had to buy some simple toolkit today. It was 5 bucks on Amazon, but I decided to find a local store that sells it. Same price btw. I think we should be a bit more aware about the impact of ordering everything through Amazon. Not only regarding delivery, but also the message it sends to local stores.

Amazon used to be the cheapest in almost every category, but more and more, I find that places like Harbor Freight beat them. I even bought a pricey resin printer and a wash and cure station the other day; Microcenter had them beat by $100+.

Harbor freight also has much more consistent quality and no fake name brand items. It’s funny because they used to be synonymous with low quality- but now they seem to have the highest quality tools you can easily buy as a consumer.

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Post by macNchz » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:45 PM UTC

rainsford wrote: post #100

vasco wrote: post #34

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I've had this exact sentiment for many years but... what are we supporting really? Is it because you want a distributed network of inventory across the country near you in case of emergency? Is it because you like talking to someone when doing purchases? Is it because you think someone is doing a societal good by parking money in inventory they brought near you? Is it because you just don't like someone doing it more…

I found myself gravitating back to local stores after years of buying essentially everything on Amazon because local stores at least to some degree curate their inventory while Amazon increasingly does not. If you're looking for a specific product that doesn't matter as much (although Amazon also has counterfeiting problems). But if you're just looking to browse what's available in a certain category of product, Amaz…

It has been surprising to me for years that people put up with this, I find it really terrible as a shopping experience. Like shopping in the worst dollar store you’ve ever been in that’s also the size of a city and loaded with ads, except you can’t actually touch the products or smell the pervasive scent of cheap plastic while you browse. And they want you to pay a subscription!

Shopping from retailers that employ actual buyers feels like a real upgrade.

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:46 PM UTC

carlosjobim wrote: post #114

vouaobrasil wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you are supporting is local sustainability. The world would be better off with less global trade and more local productions. Local productions means a stronger community and more visibility for business practices, because it's more sustainable. If a global business decides to just toss all the plastic it uses it in its backyard you'll never notice because it's 2000 miles away. If Amazon decides to treat their wo…

The products sold in local stores are never produced locally. It's national or international products, just like on Amazon. Buying from local stores pays the salaries of local salesmen, that is a benefit for the community. But wouldn't the community benefit better if they did a job that was needed instead?

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Re: Amazon workers to strike at multiple US warehouses during busy holiday season

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Post by batch12 » Thu, Dec 19, 2024, 1:46 PM UTC

SeanAnderson wrote: post #11

Just a reminder that if you search for "Thank my driver" on Amazon you'll get $5 donated to your most recent delivery driver at no cost to you. You can do this once per delivery, for every delivery, for the few weeks leading up to the holidays.

Looks like they no longer get the tip. This is what I see:

As of December 10, 2024, we have received more than 2 million "thank yous,” concluding the promotion offering $5 per "thank you" to eligible drivers. You can continue to thank your drivers and we will share your appreciation with them.