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OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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There are some pretty callous comments on this thread. This is really sad. Suchir was just 26, and graduated from Berkeley 3 years ago. Here’s his personal site: https://suchir.net/ . I think he was pretty brave for standing up against what is generally perceived as an injustice being done by one of the biggest companies in the world, just a few years out of college. I’m not sure how many people in his position would…

If I'm a whistleblower in an active case and I end up dead before testifying, I absolutely DO want the general public to speculate about my cause of death.

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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No. Anytime someone potentially possesses information that is damning to a company and that person is killed… the low probability of such an even being a random coincidence is quite low. It is so low such that it is extremely reasonable to consider the potential for an actual assassination while not precluding that a coincidence is a possibility.

> Anytime someone potentially possesses information that is damning to a company and that person is killed… the low probability of such an even being a random coincidence is quite low. You're running into the birthday paradox here. The probability of a specific witness dying before they can testify in a lawsuit is low. The probability of any one of dozens of people involved in a lawsuit dying before it's resolved is…

Right, so given the paradox, consider both possibilities rather then dismiss one like the parent is implying here.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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Normally the word "whistleblower" means someone who revealed previously-unknown facts about an organization. In this case he's a former employee who had an interview where he criticized OpenAI, but the facts that he was in possession of were not only widely known at the time but were the subject of an ongoing lawsuit that had launched months prior. As much as I want to give this a charitable reading, the only explana…

No. Anytime someone potentially possesses information that is damning to a company and that person is killed… the low probability of such an even being a random coincidence is quite low. It is so low such that it is extremely reasonable to consider the potential for an actual assassination while not precluding that a coincidence is a possibility.

I've listened to many comments here on some of these, saying it must be assassination "because the person insisted, "If I'm ever found dead, it's not suicide!"." This is sometimes despite extensive mental health history.

Entirely possible.

But in my career as a paramedic, I've (sadly) lost count of the number of mental health patients who have said, "Yeah, that was just a glitch, I'm not suicidal, not now/nor then." ... and gone on to commit or attempt suicide in extremely short order.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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I think it's best not to casually make a public accusation of murder.

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Please don't post personal attacks here, regardless of how you feel about someone.

You may not owe people who you feel are psychopaths better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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> Normally the word "whistleblower" means someone who revealed previously-unknown facts Not to be pedantic, but this is actually incorrect, both under federal and California law. Case law is actually very explicit on the point that the information does NOT need to be previously unknown to qualify for whistleblower protection. However, disclosing information to the media is not typically protected.

I think their post boils down to: "This title implies someone would have a strong reason to murder them, but that isn't true." We can evaluate that argument without caring too much about whether the writer intended it, or whether some other circumstances might have forced their word-choice.

From the article:

"The Mercury News and seven sister news outlets are among several newspapers, including the New York Times, to sue OpenAI in the past year."

That's a conflict of interest when it comes to objective reporting.

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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If I'm a whistleblower in an active case and I end up dead before testifying, I absolutely DO want the general public to speculate about my cause of death.

I would also most certainly have a dead man's switch releasing everything I know. I would have given it to an attorney along with a sworn deposition.

What if you'd die from a genuine accident?

Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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> this guy apparently killed himself. where did you get that? this article doesn't say a cause of death.

> The medical examiner’s office has not released his cause of death, but police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

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Re: OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

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post #126

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I would also most certainly have a dead man's switch releasing everything I know. I would have given it to an attorney along with a sworn deposition.

What if you'd die from a genuine accident?

Then there's no more point to keeping that leverage, is there? Might as well make it freely available.
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