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UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Manhattan

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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Manhattan

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It's wild that we let insurance companies label government triage as "death panels" while for-profit denial innovation got a free pass.

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Lol what? Neighbors and loose friends buy guns from each other all the time. In Michigan at least, you only even need a permit if it's a handgun -- rifles and shotguns don't require an iota of state involvement and as long as you're reasonably sure the buyer isn't a prohibited person, there's no real liability either.

Only if you're idiots. Edit: Especially the kind that would post about it on the internet and snitch on themselves and attract undue attention from the ATF. But yeah, some very small percentage of people are stupid and/or criminal. 99.99% of gun purchases in the US happen through an FFL with a background check and everything.

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Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Manhattan

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What a dystopian world we live in where oligarchs controlling anti-trust companies deny medical coverage [0]. Am I surprised this happened... [0] https://www.propublica.org/article/unitedhealth-healthcare-i...

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And insurance companies want us to need more or pay more for health care, not less. Insurance is regulated and the companies can only hold on to a certain percentage of the premiums.

They would rather hold on to 20% of a huge number than 20% of a big number.

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Only a handful of states require a permit to buy a firearm. A suppressor is equally easy to procure, and failing that, can be machined by anyone somewhat competent with a lathe. Won't link to it here, Youtube videos available with a quick web search. https://brilliantmaps.com/buy-gun-map/

That's basically propaganda and half-admits it on the site. There are almost no situations where you will not be buying your firearm from an FFL and you will have to fill out a background check form and have a waiting period. The only private sales that happen are among criminals and within families. Regular people aren't going to risk the kind of charges that stem from misuse after a private sale. Certainly nobody w…

> That's basically propaganda and half-admits it on the site

It is a simple page and I did not spot any inaccurate facts.

> There are almost no situations where you will not be buying your firearm from an FFL and you will have to fill out a permit.

I own 14 firearms and only 3 went through an FFL. Used firearms retain their value more than almost any other consumer good.

Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Manhattan

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Do a search for 'UnitedHealth uses faulty AI to deny elderly patients' and see what comes up. I'm not saying this is deserved, more that I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to just up and execute an insurance CEO.

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Or you could say let's not normalize broken AI in health care related systems, but potato potato I guess.

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CNBC reports that the gunman used a silencer. Wtf?

Only a handful of states require a permit to buy a firearm. A suppressor is equally easy to procure, and failing that, can be machined by anyone somewhat competent with a lathe. Won't link to it here, Youtube videos available with a quick web search. https://brilliantmaps.com/buy-gun-map/

A suppressor requires a federal tax stamp and (at least as of a few years ago) submission of fingerprints to the atf.

So is certainly not as easy as some states requirements for firearms.

Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Manhattan

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Do a search for 'UnitedHealth uses faulty AI to deny elderly patients' and see what comes up. I'm not saying this is deserved, more that I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to just up and execute an insurance CEO.

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I doubt anyone on HN would have any interest in normalizing that practice. But almost everyone who will be wronged by these systems are going to be up in arms.

I think we'll see a lot more of this sort of thing in the future. Your car killed my mother and the law said it was fine. Your insurance company denied my grandma's claim and she died in agony after paying premiums for 30 years.

Let's just hope that autonomous drones don't become trivially capable as weapons. At that point, everyone from the President and your local police chief to the chairman of Bank of America and the local ambulance chasing lawyer who sued the wrong guy's mom after she hit someone in a car accident would be in a very bad situation.

We should really try to get this under control before it gets out of hand.

Re: UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot in Manhattan

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CNBC reports that the gunman used a silencer. Wtf?

In the interest of brevity, they're not called silencers, they're called suppressors since they don't "silence" anything like in a Hollywood movie. Typically a suppressor will reduce the sound signature of a gunshot from something like 140dBA to 110dBA. Still enough to cause hearing damage and be heard a quarter mile away.

They're called suppressors among gun nerds. But silencer is the standard term in American English.

If you have complaints about how language has evolved, you may contact Richard Stallman and ask him for advice.

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