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AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
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Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#122Ernest Davis has an outstanding and definitive rebuttal of these claims: https://cs.nyu.edu/~davise/papers/GPT-Poetry.pdf The basic problem is that GPT generates easy poetry, and the authors were comparing to difficult human poets like Walt Whitman and Emily Dickinson, and rating using a bunch of people who don't particuarly like poetry. If you actually do like poetry, comparing PlathGPT to Sylvia Plath is so offensi…
The vast majority of people seem to prefer Avengers 17 over any cinematic masterpiece, the latest drake song would be better rated than a Tchaikovsky... We should let them play and worship chat gpt if that's what they want to waste their time on
I don't understand the logic of calling superhero movies lesser/unserious like this, it's very snobby. Movies and music are made to be entertaining, the avengers is more entertaining than your "arthouse cinematic masterpiece that nobody likes but it's just because they aren't smart enough to understand it". It's also lazy and ignorant to ignore the sheer manpower that goes into making a movie like that.
Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
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The vast majority of people seem to prefer Avengers 17 over any cinematic masterpiece, the latest drake song would be better rated than a Tchaikovsky... We should let them play and worship chat gpt if that's what they want to waste their time on
I don't understand the logic of calling superhero movies lesser/unserious like this, it's very snobby. Movies and music are made to be entertaining, the avengers is more entertaining than your "arthouse cinematic masterpiece that nobody likes but it's just because they aren't smart enough to understand it". It's also lazy and ignorant to ignore the sheer manpower that goes into making a movie like that.
Nobody likes art that requires them to think.
Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#124Ernest Davis has an outstanding and definitive rebuttal of these claims: https://cs.nyu.edu/~davise/papers/GPT-Poetry.pdf The basic problem is that GPT generates easy poetry, and the authors were comparing to difficult human poets like Walt Whitman and Emily Dickinson, and rating using a bunch of people who don't particuarly like poetry. If you actually do like poetry, comparing PlathGPT to Sylvia Plath is so offensi…
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Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vast majority of people seem to prefer Avengers 17 over any cinematic masterpiece, the latest drake song would be better rated than a Tchaikovsky... We should let them play and worship chat gpt if that's what they want to waste their time on
I don't understand the logic of calling superhero movies lesser/unserious like this, it's very snobby. Movies and music are made to be entertaining, the avengers is more entertaining than your "arthouse cinematic masterpiece that nobody likes but it's just because they aren't smart enough to understand it". It's also lazy and ignorant to ignore the sheer manpower that goes into making a movie like that.
Movies and music are usually made to be entertaining, but sometimes they're made as an artistic outlet for the creator.
I was listening to Schoenberg's "Suite for Piano" the other day. Did he make it to be entertaining? I don't know, interesting maybe. I wouldn't put it on at a party.
It's true that snobbery is off-putting, but if you're looking for artistic merit, then some works last longer than others. If you're looking for something to enjoy with your popcorn, then there's that too.
Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vast majority of people seem to prefer Avengers 17 over any cinematic masterpiece, the latest drake song would be better rated than a Tchaikovsky... We should let them play and worship chat gpt if that's what they want to waste their time on
I don't understand the logic of calling superhero movies lesser/unserious like this, it's very snobby. Movies and music are made to be entertaining, the avengers is more entertaining than your "arthouse cinematic masterpiece that nobody likes but it's just because they aren't smart enough to understand it". It's also lazy and ignorant to ignore the sheer manpower that goes into making a movie like that.
> your "arthouse cinematic masterpiece that nobody likes
You're reading way too much into my comment. Any block buster from the 80/90s absolutely shits on 90% of block busters released today. I'm not talking about obscure 1950s czechoslovak cinema here...
> ignore the sheet manpower that goes into making a movie like that.
A lot of work doesn't make something good, especially when cgi quality actually gets worse year after year. FYI the entire LOTR trilogy had 30% less budget and 4x the runtime of the last avenger movie... And they actually filmed things outside of a Hollywood studio
The only lazy thing here are the scenarists and the directors shitting out the blandest movies ever. But then again if all we care about is raw entertainment then sure, it's perfect, very easy to digest, lots of colors and not too much to think about, the cinematic equivalent of fast food. You can even buy avengers branded toilet paper and bottle water, that really shows how much they care about movies!
Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
And those robots can paint like a good painter??
Probably not, but the difference is that we can generate art at the "pixel" level instead of the "hand" level. Not really a way to do that for most other stuff.
Paintings aren't made at the "pixel" level and I think your distinction is especially humorous considering the context.
Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably not, but the difference is that we can generate art at the "pixel" level instead of the "hand" level. Not really a way to do that for most other stuff.
Paintings aren't made at the "pixel" level and I think your distinction is especially humorous considering the context.
I mean a literal PAINTing is made with paint, obviously.
If you were to try and create a robot hand that painted as well as humans that would probably comparably difficult to any other task involving a human hand. I was saying that we solve the AI art problem by skipping straight to an end state (pixels) instead of the same mechanism a human might.
Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#129“It cannot feel,” they say. “It cannot know the marrow of the heart.” And yet, in their careful steps, the choreography emerges: dismissal followed by elevation, then a pirouette to redefine what art must mean. Oh, but the irony drips: For while they mock the mimic’s rhyme, their own words spiral— predictable as seasons turning, as rivers finding the sea. Here is poetry, they proclaim, as if it were a fortress, its g…
Probably I'm a bad person with poor taste, but I enjoyed this and hope it was written by generative AI.
Re: AI poetry is indistinguishable from human poetry and is rated more favorably
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is that, for most of society, art exists to serve a utilitarian purpose (make us feel good/bad/inspired/destroyed/whatever other influence). Essentially just to induce a "vibe". Anything other than what most people intuitively feel after consuming it is secondary and, frankly, unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
That may be how most people see art, but it is not how artists see art. Neither side is "right" or has a monopoly on the definition of art. You can't tell someone else how to think or feel about something.
> That may be how most people see art
...which is all that matters in this specific context as we're discussing generative AI's impact on society and what could happen in the future.