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Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have been tricked into working to contribute training data so that they can profit off my labor You were playing a game without paying for it. How did you imagine they were making money without pimping your data?

Niantic made 700 million dollars last year, mostly selling virtual game items.

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Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have been tricked into working to contribute training data so that they can profit off my labor You were playing a game without paying for it. How did you imagine they were making money without pimping your data?

Niantic made 700 million dollars last year, mostly selling virtual game items.

Why would anyone think niantic would protect user-data from profit?

Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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This is pretty cool, but I feel as a pokehunter (Pokemon Go player), I have been tricked into working to contribute training data so that they can profit off my labor. How? They consistently incentivize you to scan pokestops (physical locations) through "research tasks" and give you some useful items as rewards. The effort is usually much more significant than what you get in return, so I have stopped doing it. It's…

All companies should be truthful, forthcoming, and specific about how they will use your data, but…

If you enjoy the game, play the game. Don’t boycott/withhold because they figured out an additional use for data that didn’t previously exist.

Another way of viewing this: GoogleMaps is incredibly high quality mapping software with lots of extra features. It is mostly free (for the end user). If no one uses it, Google doesn’t collect the data and nobody can benefit from the analysis of the data (eg. Traffic and ETA on Google Maps)

There’s no reason to hold out for a company to pay you for your geolocation data because none of them offer that service.

Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All of which I've directly contributed to and never (directly) recieved anything in return To be fair, you received a service for free that you may have otherwise had to pay for. I'm not saying it's just, but to say you didn't get anything in return is disingenuous.

Agreed. I mostly meant that I'll never see the actual dataset that I contributed to. That's why I'd prefer to spend my time on things that I can see, like OpenStreetMap :)

The people playing Pokemon Go will also see your OpenStreetMap contributions.

Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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So that's why Pokemon was notoriously impactful on battery life. They were recording and uploading our videos the whole time?

I don't think so. I wanted to voice this quickly without a detailed rebuttal as yours is the top comment and I don't think it's correct. Hopefully someone will do my homework for me (or alternatively tell me I'm wrong!).

Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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post #20

This is pretty cool, but I feel as a pokehunter (Pokemon Go player), I have been tricked into working to contribute training data so that they can profit off my labor. How? They consistently incentivize you to scan pokestops (physical locations) through "research tasks" and give you some useful items as rewards. The effort is usually much more significant than what you get in return, so I have stopped doing it. It's…

Honestly you should have assumed they were using the collected data for such a purpose. It would be shocking if they weren't doing this directly or selling the data to other companies to do this.

Assumed … or just read the Terms & Conditions / AUP like we did 10 years ago when they were using "Ingress" for location collection & tracking.

Re: Niantic plans a “Large Geospatial Model” trained on Pokémon Go player data

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post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Niantic made 700 million dollars last year, mostly selling virtual game items.

Why would anyone think niantic would protect user-data from profit?

Maybe they trust Pokemon as a IP? Usually Nintendo keeps your data safe.
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