Earlier quoted context omitted.
Something is only as illegal as the enforcement put into it.
So you’re just using your own definition of legal/illegal?
Is this a serious comment? Use your intelligence.
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
So when interviewing, perhaps I should skip more places that say citizenship required on the req, to avoid wasting my time?
No. Many (especially smaller) companies don't want to hire people who need visa sponsorship because it requires a decent amount of overhead. The company needs to have an immigration lawyer to prepare and submit paperwork, which many smaller companies don't want to bother with. FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. You can, however, say "eligible to work in the US". (The former would be d…
You're largely correct, as I understand it.
You cant discriminate in favor of citizens vs permanent residents unless the job legally requires citizenship.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
I run interviewing at a well known company, this isnt true
Most companies aren't well known, what makes you think your experience is the "true" one? You mean to say you get a large amount of high quality American candidates?
Theres like a million well qualified applicants, they arent getting hired. go read any jobs forum, people are struggling
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#124I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…
This will than probably change with the new American government and its anti-immigration stance. Less h1b, less ghost jobs.
Unlikely. "Staple a Green Card to their diploma" is what Trump had to say about students from other countries that graduate from US universities. Since out of country students pay the highest tuition rates, universities love them and give them preferential admissions. Though not as bad as elementary and high schools, universities suffer from grade inflation and are reluctant to kick out paying customers, especially those paying the highest tuition. As a consequence, academic standards are being reduced at a rapid rate.
If you want to come to the US to get a professional job, attending a US university instead of a domestic one is going to be worth the extra cost when it guarantees you a Green Card.
There might be a reduction in the flow of low skilled labor, especially for those looking to hire workers without legal status, but up the middle class portion of the labor market, expect the system to continue to favor cheap imported labor over domestic labor.
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#125Hang on a minute. There is absolutely nothing in this research that measures the accuracy of this approach. A user saying "I was ghosted" is not, to my mind, proof of anything.
Job seekers almost never actually know if the job was real or not, so it's hard to see how Glassdoor reviews can ever provide the insight this work is looking for.
I do believe that "ghost" jobs exist, often for H1B purposes, but I don't think this work proves it.
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#126>The trend could be due to the low marginal cost of posting additional job ads and to maintain a pipeline of talents. After adjusting for yearly trends, I find that ghost jobs can explain the recent disconnect in the Beveridge Curve in the past fifteen years. The results show that policy-makers should be aware of such a practice as it causes significant job fatigue and distorts market signals. Very interesting. I cer…
> because IMO, it made THEM look busy / effective. A KPI in hiring is offers made / accepted. I don't think the HR team gets credit for reviewing applicants and running interviews that don't result in one/both of these.
That's how it works in sane environments; unfortunately those can be quite rare.
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#127I have to put out a ghost job req and interview every person applying within reason for every green card a direct report is applying for. I have to show there are or aren’t any residents or citizens that can fill the job The main problem is: even if the interviewee knocks it out of the park, is an amazing engineer, I still am not interested in firing my OPT/h1b team member who can still legally work for 2-3 years. So…
This will than probably change with the new American government and its anti-immigration stance. Less h1b, less ghost jobs.
I wouldn't count on it. But there will certainly be tons of new part time jobs with no benefits and no health insurance.
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#128A question I've had on my mind for a while now, watching this progression of fake or poisoned jobs, and miles of automatic systems to navigate: At what point do people consider the well poisoned? Where they just check out and stop applying, to specific companies or in general, because its very very obvious that there isnt actually a valid hiring market at all. I ask this question, because I've already passed this thr…
There are many analogous questions! One of the most interesting challenges in life is trying to observe when the presentation of reality is fundamentally dishonest for some reason. The well poisoned, as it were.
I didn't know the hiring market was one of these situations, but I could see that being the case. Seems like a lot of hype and noise, but is anything really going on or is it just hollow?
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Many (especially smaller) companies don't want to hire people who need visa sponsorship because it requires a decent amount of overhead. The company needs to have an immigration lawyer to prepare and submit paperwork, which many smaller companies don't want to bother with. FWIW it's illegal to require "US citizenship" in a job description. You can, however, say "eligible to work in the US". (The former would be d…
There are actually situations where U.S. citizenship can be a requirement, e.g., cleared jobs but there needs to be a really good reason like not being able to obtain clearances.
SpaceX has been through the wringer on this one, so just copy & paste from their listing:
To conform to U.S. Government export regulations, applicant must be a (i) U.S. citizen or national, (ii) U.S. lawful, permanent resident (aka green card holder), (iii) Refugee under 8 U.S.C. § 1157, or (iv) Asylee under 8 U.S.C. § 1158, or be eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn more about the ITAR here.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you’re just using your own definition of legal/illegal?
Is this a serious comment? Use your intelligence.
Yes, this was serious.
If someone says:
> This isn't ethical. It shouldn't be legal. But it is.
It actually means „ok, it actually is illegal, but it’s not properly enforced“?