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New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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> more than 600 software developers Does anyone have a sense for how this breaks down? I would never have guessed so many full-time employees were necessary to maintain a CMS.

Is this comment made every time by hacker news people?

“I run my basement website with in my spare time? Why can’t one of the most popular websites in the world run on gum and a few paper clips”

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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post #113

> more than 600 software developers Does anyone have a sense for how this breaks down? I would never have guessed so many full-time employees were necessary to maintain a CMS.

Nope, I have no sense of how it breaks out. But, it's a pretty good site w.r.t. technology/delivery/robustness, so 600 doesn't seem that exorbitant.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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This strike seems very poorly messaged. As far as I can tell, the union hasn't given any public explanation of what specific demands management won't meet. The union website doesn't even mention that they're on strike!

Here's one from me: down with "the needle"!

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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They're striking against return to office? I work from home and value it but it never would occur to me to strike for that. I view it as a privilege and not a right. Almost everyone in the world has to go on location for their jobs. I am curious why it is so important to NYT workers in particular that they would strike over it - is there something particularly bad about the location?

One of the things they're striking against is arbitrary return to office mandates . Why did you leave off two words that change the nature of what they're fighting for? Other folks have already pointed out the "rights" unions have fought for that we take for granted today. On top of that, being in a union is about solidarity with your fellow workers. You can support your coworkers' who need or just want to work from…

> One of the things they're striking against is arbitrary return to office mandates.

If it is arbitrary, why is the NYT seemingly standing firm on the issue? As the article tells, NYT have agreed to a seven month grace period to give workers a chance to get their houses in order. That is not indicative of an arbitrary move.

Perhaps you mean they are striking against mandates that are motivated by undisclosed reasons?

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Offshoring is nothing new. Has been tried for decades, with multiple degrees of failure.

It seems they failed either because: 1. The businesses didn't know how to handle the workers not being in the office. While a problem in the past, this is now a solved problem thanks to COVID forcing them to figure it out. 2. The businesses tried to hire cheap workers. This is still going to fail, just as hiring minimum wage workers in the US for the job would fail. The workers you actually want charge the same no ma…

Cultural problems, communication problems, leadership problems.

I’ve been involved in a lot of software offshoring projects. It’s about twice as likely to end in failure compared to onshore software development services.

It has nothing to do with the price. I’ve worked with great devs who were cheap and terrible devs who were expensive. And it’s hard to tell which is which till the project ships or fails to ship.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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This strike seems very poorly messaged. As far as I can tell, the union hasn't given any public explanation of what specific demands management won't meet. The union website doesn't even mention that they're on strike!

It's a very young union, started in 2021.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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> more than 600 software developers Does anyone have a sense for how this breaks down? I would never have guessed so many full-time employees were necessary to maintain a CMS.

The NYT has awesome interactive web features for things like the election tomorrow, which I'm guessing take a lot of development work to land. It's much more than a CMS.

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From the WSJ’s reporting on this: > Most employees in the tech union receive pay of more than $100,000, and average compensation, including bonus and restricted stock units, is $190,000, according to a Times spokeswoman. That figure is an average of $40,000 more than members of the Times’s journalist union, she said. > Times leaders have also bristled at the nature of some of the guild’s requests. The union previousl…

> That figure is an average of $40,000 more than members of the Times’s journalist union, she said. The journalist union should push for an increase too, then. NYC cost of living is enormous .

I don't know about the NYT, but in my country newspapers are fighting for their lives, financially. Newspapers closing down and others laying off staff is a regular occurance.

Print newspapers are essentially dead. Online news? Barely anyone pays for that. Online with ads? Reddit/twitter/facebook/youtube pay zero dollars for the content they put ads on.

If you're in tech and you want to maximise your salary - a company's gotta have money before they can give it to you. And newspapers don't have money.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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I've seen a number of creative 404 pages. A creative 500 / 503 page saying something about the tech team being on strike and served off the fronting proxy or LB, not the application servers, would be a cool touch.

Would that not qualify as a harmful sabotage though?

I don't see why would it be any more harmful as any regular strike.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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> That figure is an average of $40,000 more than members of the Times’s journalist union, she said. The journalist union should push for an increase too, then. NYC cost of living is enormous .

I don't know about the NYT, but in my country newspapers are fighting for their lives, financially. Newspapers closing down and others laying off staff is a regular occurance. Print newspapers are essentially dead. Online news? Barely anyone pays for that. Online with ads? Reddit/twitter/facebook/youtube pay zero dollars for the content they put ads on. If you're in tech and you want to maximise your salary - a compa…

The NYT has money.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/business/media/new-york-t...

> The company’s adjusted operating profit for the quarter, which ran from July through September, rose 16.1 percent to $104.2 million, from $89.8 million a year before. Overall revenue increased 7 percent to $640.2 million, compared with the same period in 2023.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/07/business/media/new-york-t...

> The company’s adjusted operating profit for the quarter, from April through June, rose to $104.7 million from $92.2 million a year before. Overall revenue increased 5.8 percent, to $625.1 million, compared with the same period in 2023.

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