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Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Thats because of the calculation: - Endorse Harris and Trump wins, Trump will seek revenge on Bezos and Amazon (he tried this in the first term) - Endorse Trump and Harris wins, Harris will not act outside the bounds of a normal government official This is capitulation to the perceived threats of a Trump presidency and is very bad.

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  they go after him
Would love to hear what horrible consequences you think Elon is facing..

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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More interesting to me is that this is the third tech billionaire to take a decidedly different stance than he did previously. Musk is quite active, but even Zuckerberg took a much more neutral stance for 2024. Honestly I'm more surprised that Bezos even bothered. Does he really think the endorsement of The Washington Post editorial board is so significant that it's worth intervening? That seems implausible.

Given he was the one who made the call, what other conclusion would you draw?

Well I mean the most generous take would be that he's come around about Trump and has decided that the editorial board making an explicit endorsement for Harris isn't in his own (or the country's) interests.

On X they're floating the theory that he knew this would cause a lot of them to resign, and wanted that for other reasons. All we can do is speculate, I guess.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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The Washington Post has endorsed a candidate every election cycle since 1976, with the exception of 1988. The New York Times has endorsed a candidate in every presidential election since its founding in 1851.

Just because it has always been done doesn't make it good.

It's surprising to me that a news organization not publishing an opinion piece is itself giant front page news

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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To play Devils Advocate for a moment: Why do we need, or even want, a newspaper to endorse a President? How does it not undermine a paper's journalistic ethics to be neutral and fair?

It's not automatically unethical for a journalist to advocate for something.

I guess if they entirely stopped publishing self authored editorials it might be "neutral" to not publish a particular one. But that isn't what is happening.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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post #95

More interesting to me is that this is the third tech billionaire to take a decidedly different stance than he did previously. Musk is quite active, but even Zuckerberg took a much more neutral stance for 2024. Honestly I'm more surprised that Bezos even bothered. Does he really think the endorsement of The Washington Post editorial board is so significant that it's worth intervening? That seems implausible.

Thats because of the calculation: - Endorse Harris and Trump wins, Trump will seek revenge on Bezos and Amazon (he tried this in the first term) - Endorse Trump and Harris wins, Harris will not act outside the bounds of a normal government official This is capitulation to the perceived threats of a Trump presidency and is very bad.

> Harris will not act outside the bounds of a normal government official

California has even blocked SpaceX because they don't like the politics of Musk (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-10-11/la-me-sp...) so I would say is risky to expect any of the two (or its followers) not seeking revenge.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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More interesting to me is that this is the third tech billionaire to take a decidedly different stance than he did previously. Musk is quite active, but even Zuckerberg took a much more neutral stance for 2024. Honestly I'm more surprised that Bezos even bothered. Does he really think the endorsement of The Washington Post editorial board is so significant that it's worth intervening? That seems implausible.

Bezos cares because his businesses have billions of dollars in revenue from the federal government. Trump has already claimed to personally review those contracts and was reported as trying to kill the $10B JEDI contract:

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/10/26/trump-mattis-screw-amazo...

By all accounts, he’s prepared to be more authoritarian and less bound by the law if re-elected and he’s already threatening journalists with rape and talking about yanking broadcast licenses for channels which don’t kowtow to him.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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To play Devils Advocate for a moment: Why do we need, or even want, a newspaper to endorse a President? How does it not undermine a paper's journalistic ethics to be neutral and fair?

Which is worse, a newspaper expressing an opinion or a newspaper being forbidden from expressing an opinion?

Forbidden by whom? Forbidden by its owner vs forbidden by an external party like the government are two different situations.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Is anyone really changing their mind based on some newspaper endorsement? I’m pretty sure everyone knows who they’re gonna vote for at this point.

It's east to think that way but if it didn't matter, Bezos wouldn't have squashed it.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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I definitely remember the 1990s differently. They still had endorsements, but it just wasn’t spelled out that way. Instead, just prominent opinions, hit pieces, etc.

I do remember the 1990s where it was typically local newspapers doing explicit endorsements and it was almost always limited to local candidates and issues.

Re: Jeff Bezos killed Washington Post endorsement of Kamala Harris

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Yeah, I think you’re missing the point a bit here: the fear of endorsing the “wrong” candidate, as it would lead to loss of profit by the owning company, is what led to the axing of the endorsement. Call it what you want: profit and political strongarming silenced a newspaper.

It's just political strongarming. The Washington Post is not profitable.

Bezos made the call because he was afraid of Trump canceling lucrative Pentagon AWS contracts. WaPo is a loss leader, AWS is his bread and butter.
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