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Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by neonsunset »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #87
mattferderer wrote: post #5

As a paying subscriber I love this move for the .NET community. As a .NET dev for many years, I've noticed there have been periods of time where either Visual Studio or Rider was far better than the other. Currently, Rider is much better. Hopefully this encourages more people to try out C# & F#. Both fantastic languages. - Edit - Looks like Webstorm (JS/TS editor) is also free now.

I use Visual Studio from work and personally subscribe to JetBrains. For those developing commercial software on a budget, Visual Studio Code is an excellent option. Although it lacks some features of JetBrains and Microsoft tools, pairing the .NET CLI with VS Code can still deliver impressive results. if you can afford $10 monthly, integrating GitHub Copilot with VS Code can elevate it to a fancy, lightweight IDE

That's my exact workflow nowadays. The best text editing experience with GH copilot and lowest battery footprint makes using a VSC a no-brainer. It's especially nice since it also happens to be the choice for Rust, so I experience very little friction, not having to switch an editor and using capable CLI of .NET and Cargo.

For advanced scenarios Rider still rules, and this change is a very welcome one. I hope it will help with promoting .NET as the first choice where teams historically picked Go (which is worse).

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by mathverse »

SkiFire13 wrote: post #104
mathverse wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are a russian company. Russians despite their evil empire are smart and capable people.

It was founded by russian nationals but the company is formally czech and is more connected to the west than to Russia.

The majority of employees and C-level are russians. It is a Russian company.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by mathverse »

charkubi wrote: post #108
mathverse wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are a russian company. Russians despite their evil empire are smart and capable people.

Czech https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JetBrains

Majority of employees are russians including the C level

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by blorenz »

I have loved JetBrains ever since I entered their ecosystem for the End of the World Sale in 2012. As a professional developer, I need my tools to work for me and not against me. That is why I pay for these tools and I appreciate JetBrains' consistent iteration on making them even better.

I do have a few gripes though. I wish the performance was better on my current setup on my M2 MBP. It is an awful experience when tools get in your way and break your flow. The file sync to MacOS is fairly laggy and new files that are created can take seconds to appear. UI interactions can be laggy. Sometimes invoking the context sensitive intentions/actions is blocking where it will hang for seconds. I need to keep my movements fluid to keep my train of thoughts on the track and not be derailed by my ADD.

I also would like a plug-in system that wasn't entirely on Kotlin, Groovy and Java. I did Groovy dev in a past life but it's painful for me today. Thankfully ChatGPT gets me most of the way there. I wish there were JS/TS bindings to build upon.

Overall, I'm pleased with JetBrains. I appreciate their content they put out on YouTube to further empower the developers that use their products with knowledge and guidance of efficiencies. I'll continue using it as my core IDE for the foreseeable future. I have augmented my flow with a bit of Cursor but JetBrains is the bread and butter.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by talldayo »

terminalbraid wrote: post #83
textlapse wrote: post #46

There are a few privately owned companies that amaze me: JetBrains, Valve among the top. Somehow they have a much better value/user and make reasonable decisions: counter intuitive to investors/shareholders but insanely intuitive to their users. I am sure the public market has made the general public reap the rewards of large companies (kudos!) but some of the privately owned companies are absolutely kicking ass to s…

I go pretty heavy on Jetbrains products, but they have stirred up the dev community a few times chasing things seen as investor friendly. In particular when they shoved their AI plugin as a required plugin with carried an obnoxious upsell nag. In general they've also spread themselves out across a ridiculous number of products where I'd prefer if they just focused on making their current stuff work (and not discontin…

They also pulled the plug on free support for their Rust plugin which really upset me. Jetbrains is intent on making you pay before you get IDE functionality; I'd rather use VS Code or Zed these days.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by fuzzy2 »

marklubi wrote: post #80
terminalbraid wrote: post #3

This is pretty huge all around, especially with Microsoft discontinuing Visual Studio for Mac. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022... I'd also like to note the great integration Rider has with Godot and Unity for game development.

VS for Mac was junk. Better off trashing it and pushing people the VS Code route. I use VS Code daily for .NET development. It's probably 70% of what VS on Windows is, but it works well and I don't need to run a VM for it (if I need some of the in-depth tracing and profiling stuff, I can still fire up the gold standard). VS on Mac was maybe 30%

I mean, yes, VS Code certainly is great and all, but…

> It's probably 70% of what VS on Windows is

no. From my perspective, it doesn’t even have 50% of VS features, and that’s probably a generous estimation. VS has lots and lots of features. Granted, many of them are irrelevant for most users most of the time.

Even Rider is lacking in comparison. It is very limited regarding debugging targets for example.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by prepend »

sbrother wrote: post #117
terminalbraid wrote: post #3

This is pretty huge all around, especially with Microsoft discontinuing Visual Studio for Mac. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022... I'd also like to note the great integration Rider has with Godot and Unity for game development.

What does "noncommercial use" mean in this context though? These are tools for work - is the idea that students can use them for free and then will start paying once they finish school?

Students or OSS

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by [deleted] »

sbrother wrote: post #117
terminalbraid wrote: post #3

This is pretty huge all around, especially with Microsoft discontinuing Visual Studio for Mac. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022... I'd also like to note the great integration Rider has with Godot and Unity for game development.

What does "noncommercial use" mean in this context though? These are tools for work - is the idea that students can use them for free and then will start paying once they finish school?

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Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by OtomotO »

I loved JetBrains IDEs years back.

These days I am mostly using NeoVim.

I decided today to stop supporting JetBrains BECAUSE there is no good kotlin language server.

I would gladly pay them money even if I don't use their IDEs if only they provided a good language server.

Re: Rider is now free for non-commercial use

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Post by [deleted] »

scblzn wrote: post #76

However, be careful with the terms of non-commercial usage (Enforced heavy metrics) "You agree that the product will send usage data to validate your compliance with the license terms and anonymous feature usage statistics..." "The information collected under Sections 4.1. and 4.2. may include but is not limited to frameworks, file templates used in the Product, actions invoked, and other interactions with the Produc…

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