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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by tyfon »

latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

We're getting closer and closer to the world Solaria in Asimovs universe.

I'm personally trying (and to some degree failing) to disengage from screens and other digital interactions.

My advantage is that I live quite remotely and can just hop into my boat and go fishing or something without the phone, but the craving that result in are scary.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by chasd00 »

adamc wrote: post #26
39896880 wrote: post #15

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>The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out of our environment less. Depends on what environment that is. I mean, is there some value in hearing an ambulance siren at full volume while I'm walking down the street? Or the sound of people trying to get my attention to hand me some flyer? Or the sound of the BART?

I think there might be some psychological benefit just in experiencing life and being in the moment, even though it isn't all pleasant. I listen to books or music during a lot of my daily walks, but I've noticed that when I don't, I sometimes experience life differently.

i agree but i think what the parent and other folks up thread are saying makes sense. It's nice to have the choice to tune in or tune out but no one wants that decision made for them. No one wants to be forced to engage with 100+ random people in very close proximity with really no option to standup let alone leave like on a plane. Another way to look at it is imagine the person to your left and to your right are super fans of the political party opposite to yours. That wouldn't be very fun unless you like to fight for 3hrs.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by prmoustache »

tesch1 wrote: post #69
sylens wrote: post #27

Just reading this blog makes me feel like it is actually not a great device to travel with. For me, a good travel device is one that takes up minimal room when packing to the point where it becomes easy to forget I even have it in my bag. The Vision Pro typically requires its own dedicated spot on top of your carry on as you go through the airport - kind of the opposite. The author talks about just packing it with a…

I travel regularly with a vr headset and it takes a minority of my carry on space packed in a protective case. Non issue.

It is not necessarily the space used but the inconvenience of packing/unpacking stuff from a carry on bag in a cramped environment.

I guess that would be different if I was flying first or business class.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by LeafItAlone »

cybrox wrote: post #84
DutchRanger wrote: post #18

I take out my earbuds even saying Hi to the bus driver I can't imagine talking to a flight attendant while wearing a VR device. It seems very uninterested in the person you are talking to. Could be just me but I think a lot of older generations share this experience. It is not hard to take out your earbuds or take off your VR device to show you are paying attention to the person you are talking to.

There's a huge shift in this field at the moment. I personally find it disrespectful to talk to people while wearing headphones/earbuds and I'd still consider myself young but a lot of younger people, especially u25 seem to find this completely normal. I'm not sure I like this development. Ignoring the "disrespectful" part, it has become accepted to toy with your phone while listening to someone and let's be honest,…

I personally also take them out. But don’t see it as rude or disrespectful if others don’t.

Especially with AirPods gaining hearing aid functionality, it shouldn’t be a sign of lack of focus.

As an aside, I personally able to concentrate _more_ in certain scenarios when I am fiddling or have background noise playing. It quiets the part of my brain that otherwise gets distracted. I use that method for video conferences to increase the amount I am focused on the speaker and content.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by prmoustache »

tesch1 wrote: post #72
ljf wrote: post #40

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It is also one of the few public places to 'safely' do it. Would you feel comfortable wearing one and limiting your awareness of your surroundings on a public bus? In a coffee shop? Sitting outside a coffee shop? In a park? In a pub? And also your answers may be yes if you are male, but I can imagine in the current world we live in a lot of women would feel potentially at risk if they were wearing these in public.

Train travel is great with one too.

You have a whole screen (large windows) at the side of your seat with landscape and stuff to actually enjoy on a train.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by jon-wood »

bbor wrote: post #61
mtalantikite wrote: post #28

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I generally agree with this sentiment of people being too tethered to technology and not paying attention to the world around them, but I don't see a problem with it on a flight. You're generally going to be seated in one place for hours at a time. It's much more infuriating to be walking out of the subway here in NYC and people are just in zombie mode walking up the stairs slowly while staring at their phones. Or do…

Well put! Though I would argue that the issue being discussed is not short-term distraction in highly dangerous situations like driving a car or sharing a sidewalk in NYC, but rather the long-term psychological effects of filling every spare moment with entertainment. Ever since being forced to bus an hour+ to high school (sans smart phone! Can you imagine?!) I've learned to appreciate what long stretches of contempl…

> Other than the nice flight attendants, which we still have, for some weird reason

They're trained to get everyone off the plane in under 90 seconds in case of emergency. The handing out of drinks and snacks is a pleasant side effect of their presence.

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Post by dfxm12 »

bentcorner wrote: post #59
nordsieck wrote: post #31

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> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. That may or may not be true in general, but air travel is one of the most oppressive environments people regularly find themselves in. Being in an extremely crowded environment with very little personal space is psychologically uncomfortable for a lot of people. And it's basically not possible…

Weirdly enough I love being on a plane (and airports). There's something psychologically freeing about them that I feel whenever I fly. I look forward to flying so much. And it's not like I'm flying first class or anything - I fly economy every time. Maybe if I flew more frequently I'd grow to dislike it (I fly maybe once a year), but honestly airports and flying are my favorite part of a trip (yes, I like them more…

Do you have to deal with the TSA where you fly? I take psychological damage any time I have to deal with them.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by chasd00 »

renewiltord wrote: post #110
luismedel wrote: post #50

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I like to be able to ear any siren around me, to be honest. They're the way they are for a reason.

This is kind of why I like living near highways and train tracks. Most people live in suburbs and they don’t hear the noise of the city. They just miss out on so much environment. Sadly, my wife hates this (she is not in tune with her environment) and so we moved from a place where there were crazy people screaming to a place which is relatively quiet. Sometimes I’m at home and there aren’t any sirens or bells or peo…

> Sometimes I’m at home and there aren’t any sirens or bells or people screaming and I just think about how out of touch we are with the environment.

at least in the suburbs you can engage with and experience the leaf blowers.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by JoshTriplett »

renewiltord wrote: post #110
luismedel wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like to be able to ear any siren around me, to be honest. They're the way they are for a reason.

This is kind of why I like living near highways and train tracks. Most people live in suburbs and they don’t hear the noise of the city. They just miss out on so much environment. Sadly, my wife hates this (she is not in tune with her environment) and so we moved from a place where there were crazy people screaming to a place which is relatively quiet. Sometimes I’m at home and there aren’t any sirens or bells or peo…

I genuinely can't tell if this comment is serious or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law .
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