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Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by russelg »

talldayo wrote: post #117
whimsicalism wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

steam deck is x86

What a coincidence! So are a variety of Macs that shipped with hardware supporting Linux and Vulkan on day 1.

Yes, but this thread is about Asahi Linux, which is for M series Macbooks. Not x86.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by wtallis »

dcchambers wrote: post #102
wtallis wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple already provides their Game Porting Toolkit which includes a D3D12 to Metal translation later for Wine, and it has been integrated into user-friendly Wine distributions like Crossover since last year. There's not much Proton has to offer over what's already available.

My understanding about the game porting toolkit is that it requires developers to specifically modify their game in order to make their game compatible. The magic of Proton from a consumer point of view is that it just works for basically every game, sans those with Kernel-level anticheat stuff. This means thousands of old games that haven't been updated in years will work.any games that don't have active developers.…

The stated intended purpose of the game porting toolkit is to enable developers to modify their games. But the software actually being shipped includes what is literally a Wine GPU backend, which is usable by (and already used and bundled by) consumer-facing Wine applications like Crossover. If you go to Codeweavers, download any Crossover for Mac from the past year (Sep. 27, 2023 according to their release notes), you're getting a tool that includes the D3D to Metal layer from Apple's Game Porting Toolkit.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by sweeter »

tapoxi wrote: post #37
dcchambers wrote: post #22

From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done! It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux. A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on P…

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2465907/arm-version-of-steam...

A lot of stuff like this shows up, they also have a fork of waydroid and box64. I think a lot of them are projects and a lot of them are just devs with a lot of agency who share the dream

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by shmerl »

dcchambers wrote: post #22

From a performance and technical perspective this is incredible. Well done! It will never happen, but my dream is for the Asahi devs, Valve, and Apple to all get together to build out a cross-platform Proton to emulate and play games built for Windows on both x86 and ARM hardware running Linux. A Steam Deck with the performance and power efficiency of an M-series ARM chip and the entire library of games that run on P…

You don't need Apple for that.

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by Philpax »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #119

Ok, but why would a hardcore Linux person want to play games that embody everything they hate about Windows in their mode of production, data gathering practices, politics, etc?

linux users like to have fun too

Also, there are plenty of Windows-only games that aren't subject to those practices. Free games, itch.io games, GOG games, etc. There's a big world out there!

Re: AAA Gaming on Asahi Linux

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Post by Philpax »

fl0id wrote: post #120
whimsicalism wrote: post #105

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honestly with chatgpt i don’t think not learning can really be an excuse anymore. not saying have it write the code, but just recursively asking for explanations and resources can get you up to speed on tons of things

Yeah good luck with that in systems programming or anything complex. You’re not gonna get far.

I guarantee you'll get much further than you would have previously done in the same amount of time, just by virtue of it being able to point you in the right direction. You don't need perfection when learning, you need a wayfinder, and it can do that just fine.
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