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Re: Internet Archive: Security breach alert

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No one gets extradited when the attack aligns with US interests abroad.

What weird conspiracy is this? US interests dont involve taking down archive.org

Just for completeness sake and my own opinion based on my own witnessing of history, every political party of every government of every country would love to see all the archives gone. It's easier to twist the truth if one can memory hole reports and make the original source go offline or pressure them to change their words. There will always be individuals that archive stories they find interesting, but many stories are uninteresting until people learn what more may have been left out at a later time as part of a much bigger story. That is when the archives become a treasure trove and big archives sites are the first that people turn to for the original reporting. As a generic example, many news sites will redact what they knew to be false after the vast majority saw their misinformation but they can't redact an archive of their twisted truth. The internet has made it a little harder to control a narrative. It was so much easier to control when it was just a few big newspaper publishers that owned the smaller ones and a few big cable companies that owned most of the smaller ones. They would all literally parrot the same lines.

Curious to see if they go after archive.is next.

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> Software Engineer, Archiving & Data Services (Remote) [...] Preliminary duties of the role will primarily focus on developing Archive-It That is. Paying over 100k at the lower end of the range for 3y experience as software engineer

It's a non profit. You're probably not choosing to work for the IA for high compensation.

The undertone was intended to be: that's an insane amount of money, something one with quadruple that amount of experience would maybe earn in a for-profit organisation, but I guess your reaction further proves it's different where you're from

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They're hiring, if you're looking for a job. https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=3bb8222ccd9a88ea

> Software Engineer, Archiving & Data Services (Remote) [...] Preliminary duties of the role will primarily focus on developing Archive-It That is. Paying over 100k at the lower end of the range for 3y experience as software engineer

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There is a big difference between doing something for pure curiosity, love, or exploration and doing something directly harmful to other people for the same reasons. One is art; the other is sadism.

I'm not sure that placing free long distance calls isn't harmful to the org whose infrastructure you're using for your own benefit, but 2600 (Hz) is a respected hacker magazine and phreaking and Cap'n crunch whistles are seen as cool Hacking the Internet Archive and only placing an alert with a provocative message, I could see my teenage self do that. My judgment of the character is going to depend on what it turns o…

There's a spectrum and case by case judgement. I'd agree your examples are harmless even if technically they harm the phone company. Taking down the internet archive just for the hell of it has a distinctly less "cool" or "fun" flavor, to my eye.

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> Software Engineer, Archiving & Data Services (Remote) [...] Preliminary duties of the role will primarily focus on developing Archive-It That is. Paying over 100k at the lower end of the range for 3y experience as software engineer

Not even in the 10th % for the area per https://www.levels.fyi/heatmap/

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That's a strange thing to read on Hacker news. Isn't that description the definition of hack value? As in http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack-value.html Now, it depends what the "it" is referring to here, but so far all I've heard is about an alert() message saying the usernames will be sent to a breach alerting site. If they're doing it just for the heck of it, it's still costing a lot of people a lot of time tha…

There is a big difference between doing something for pure curiosity, love, or exploration and doing something directly harmful to other people for the same reasons. One is art; the other is sadism.

Is it better to deface a website for ransom or to support a scam than it is to deface a website because you're bored?

The action is reprehensible either way, but if this is truly just an old-fashioned Anonymous attack with no ulterior motive beyond just being bad that's honestly kind of refreshing.

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A pulled an old friends website down from Internet Archive. He's moved on the next stage, but I was glad I was able to put his site back up. It'll be a shame if IA goes down permanently, but we need a decentralized solution anyway. Having a single mega organization in charge of our collective heritage isn't a good idea.

I have always thought about this. It would be interesting to have users actually store small amounts of redundant info on a device connected to the internet. Very similarly to what a torrent does but with more peers (more data shards than full copies) and less seeds. And try and keep a huge database for everyone. Obviously open source and it would end up something like tor where they just assist the network with security patches but they don’t actually have any real “control” (admin dashboard control) over the network at large. We already do something smaller but like that with website static file caching, but at much smaller scale. Obviously security implications of this would be very hard but maybe not impossible to overcome. ipfs comes close but it again does more seeds then peers.

if anyone knows something like what I'm suggesting, I'd love to hear about it!

Re: Internet Archive: Security breach alert

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A pulled an old friends website down from Internet Archive. He's moved on the next stage, but I was glad I was able to put his site back up. It'll be a shame if IA goes down permanently, but we need a decentralized solution anyway. Having a single mega organization in charge of our collective heritage isn't a good idea.

It's called torrent protocol and it doesn't work, no one wants to spend money and bandwidth hosting a god forsaken movie or book that only a handful of people care about.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a big difference between doing something for pure curiosity, love, or exploration and doing something directly harmful to other people for the same reasons. One is art; the other is sadism.

I'm not sure that placing free long distance calls isn't harmful to the org whose infrastructure you're using for your own benefit, but 2600 (Hz) is a respected hacker magazine and phreaking and Cap'n crunch whistles are seen as cool Hacking the Internet Archive and only placing an alert with a provocative message, I could see my teenage self do that. My judgment of the character is going to depend on what it turns o…

Doing the internet equivalent of burning the largest library in the world is not exactly a good person's behavior.
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