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Post by biomechanica »

jonursenbach wrote: post #86
Terretta wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The headline should read Google Chrome Skin That would be redundant. Long before Google had a browser, the URL bar, buttons, scroll boxes, etc, of a browser (as opposed to the rendering engine) were called chrome .[1] Developers didn't refer to browser skin, developers referred to browser chrome. This is — quite literally in the original sense of the term — Google Chrome for the WebKit rendering engine. 1. "chrome:…

Google Chrome is built on top of WebKit, so this is rather Google Chrome for Safari.

As I understand it, Google's webkit went in another direction than webkit vanilla.

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Post by tikhonj »

doctoboggan wrote: post #117
chc wrote: post #102

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> Like many others have said here before, if you don't like what they do with their platform you can choose not to buy apple products. And also like many others have said before, that's not a difference. You could choose not to buy Microsoft products in the '90s. I did it. The place I worked did it. Most people and places simply didn't make that choice because Microsoft seemed like a safer purchase. Also, Apple has p…

>Also, Apple has pretty much the same position in the tablet market that Microsoft did in the PC market. I can't remember the last time I saw someone holding a non-Apple tablet who wasn't trying to sell me one. Rather than blindly speculating, we can look at actual facts. Today Microsoft has 93% of the desktop OS market.[1] Considering the recent rise in popularity of both OS X and Linux I would guess that was higher…

Yeah, but that's the mobile market. That includes phones as well as tablets. Android has clearly made great inroads in the phone market: I think it actually has a market share of over 50% in phones (well, smartphones, anyhow). Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for tablets; for whatever reason, Apple still maintains a very strong position in the tablet market.

I'm too young to know for sure, but I bet Microsoft only ever had a monopoly in the desktop market and never in servers or the like.

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Post by laacz »

doctoboggan wrote: post #117
chc wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Like many others have said here before, if you don't like what they do with their platform you can choose not to buy apple products. And also like many others have said before, that's not a difference. You could choose not to buy Microsoft products in the '90s. I did it. The place I worked did it. Most people and places simply didn't make that choice because Microsoft seemed like a safer purchase. Also, Apple has p…

>Also, Apple has pretty much the same position in the tablet market that Microsoft did in the PC market. I can't remember the last time I saw someone holding a non-Apple tablet who wasn't trying to sell me one. Rather than blindly speculating, we can look at actual facts. Today Microsoft has 93% of the desktop OS market.[1] Considering the recent rise in popularity of both OS X and Linux I would guess that was higher…

You're saying that if (when) Microsoft will fall to some percentage (63%, for example) in desktop market, they can appeal anti-monopoly regulations and force IE within Windows again?

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Post by visarg »

dailyrorschach wrote: post #115
chc wrote: post #109

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> It may very well be, but having a monopoly alone isn't not a crime. A crime in this case would be abusive practices of the monopoly. Like not allowing third-party browsers to compete with your own on anything remotely resembling a level playing field? That's what we were talking about here, remember? Apple won't allow alternative browser engines at all, and if you decide to build a browser using the engine Apple pr…

Again though, Apple is one manufacturer. They make a device and supporting software for that device. Unlike the situation with Microsoft where they were licensing software to multiple device makers. It was the OEM agreements that led to them running afoul of antitrust. Since Apple sells a hardware device with software they are entitled to do whatever they want with it. This is true of Android of course too, as we kno…

Technicalities. It still doesn't sit right to hog the default web browser handler. Safari for iOS is pretty rudimentary. I am mostly annoyed by the constant refreshes, even when I hit the back button.

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Post by masklinn »

patrickaljord wrote: post #60
AlexandrB wrote: post #46

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> The browser might create a SDK that makes web apps work more like native apps thus resulting in reducing Apple's control over apps. This claim come up occasionally. It always seems silly because web apps were the ONLY apps in the original iOS. Native apps came later and only with pressure from the development community.

> It always seems silly because web apps were the ONLY apps in the original iOS. Native apps came later and only with pressure from the development community. I think that is a silly claim, web apps were pretty useless at the time, there were almost no html5 features at the time so web apps were no threats at all while Apple was adding support for apps.

> there were almost no html5 features at the time so web apps were no threats at all while Apple was adding support for apps.

The issue with this theory is that Apple did not want to add support for native applications, only developer pressure made them (Steve Jobs, mostly) relent, and order the cleanup and release of a native SDK.

Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

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Post by masklinn »

ajross wrote: post #5

Can someone clarify? I thought replacing the browser (actually even stronger: rendering web content using anything but the browser) was one of the items forbidden by the app store guidelines?

> I thought replacing the browser (actually even stronger: rendering web content using anything but the browser) was one of the items forbidden by the app store guidelines?

The real case is somewhat more complex:

1. It is not possible to replace the built-in browser (there are no hooks to have an other application handle e.g. `http` links), but it is perfectly possible to release (and sell) a "browser" application through which websites can be accessed

2. It is allowed to render any content, but it is not allowed to execute downloaded code save through the built-in interpreter, so a browser can't run javascript code locally. On the other hand, it's perfectly possible to have a "thin-client" browser and do all rendering on a remote server, that's what Opera Mini does.

Re: Google Chrome now works on iOS

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Post by chimmy »

mdwelsh wrote: post #95
cooldeal wrote: post #15

The headline should read Google Chrome Skin now works on iOS. For all intents and purposes, the heart of the browser, i.e the rendering and scripting engines are not running on the iPad or iPhone. Would it be accurate to state that IE now works on the iPad if Microsoft ported the IE browser chrome(UI) to the iPad?

Note that Chrome on iOS does use the Chrome networking stack, which has a lot of enhancements - including SPDY.

But it still feels slower than Safari too me.
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