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Much like how SharePoint at most companies turn into a zombie wasteland of random unorganized documents, this also happens with Notion.
All of these types of products need their customers to effectively have someone dedicated to curation, organization and do librarian task - to maintain a good hygiene.
Otherwise, any type of team collaboration tool will get unwieldy super fast.
Another anecdote added to the "I don't get notion" pile. I just don't get notion. I use Apple Notes for everything id use notion for + scratch.txt on every project folder root. (i've used notion, quip, gdocs, dropbox paper) Notion lives rent free in my mind because while im indifferent to it, people seem to LOVE it. and that's so fascinating. even this article, I upvoted it because the conversation about notion is in…
Humans naturally love to twiddle knobs and move things around. Notion attaches that behavior with money making through an affiliate program. Result is a billion dollar company.
It still blows my mind that Google Docs still haven't taken over Notion's business altogether. I have used Notion for ~6 months for my own company, ended up going back to Google Docs because it was not worth it. I am sure there are a billion other uses of it, we weren't using any of its database-like features, just as an internal documentation platform, but still fascinating to see a business thrive on the lack of in…
All of the GSuite was an acquisition, so it's kind of amazing that it has been maintained, let alone continues to exist, at all
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Thanks for the Anytype rec. I have similarly been looking for a good alternative since they turned on AI features you can’t easily opt out of. And I’m not some anti-LLM zealot — I use them every day. I’m not even worried about them training on user data. The more immediate problem is that if you accidentally type something in the Ask AI box (which is very easy to do because it looks like search), the page you’re on a…
(I work at Notion but not on AI) We maintain a list of data su processors here: https://www.notion.so/notion/Notion-s-List-of-Subprocessors-... It’s not as specific as citing the actual model version in use from each vendor, though.
And I'm not anti AI. I'm an ML researcher who uses LLMs all the time. But there's a big difference between that and revealing all my private information to them.
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Apple Notes is underrated. There is no flashy features to distract you. Just you and your notes.
Apple Notes is pretty close to perfect for me - it's just missing Markdown support and backlinks. I did just figure out how to link notes together with the '>>' shortcut, which is a game-changer. I've tried a bunch of other apps, but I always come back to Notes.
I enjoyed Notion at first for certain tasks, but it became much less enjoyable as everyone tried to force everything into emoji-laden Notion docs. The Notion spaces used by the Product and Program managers I worked with in the past few years have become a collection of half-finished documents that are always out of date, hard to find, and often superseded by some new Notion page they created but forgot to tell us abo…
I agree there are issues any time the bored folks in “product” are allowed to set up, well, anything, honestly.
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I'm very curious how and why to use Obsidian well. It's so confusing I've given up multiple times.
Don't buy into all the crazy around it. It's a Markdown editor with some organisation features. If you read Reddit, people treat it like some sort of second coming, making sure EVERY NOTE THEY TAKE is linked at least one other, tagged, etc. Like somehow that makes notes better. I was confused at first too but once I realised most of these people are insane and it's a note taking app, it's very easy simple and quick t…
And for many, it does. It may not for you, but everyone has their own system.
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(I work at Notion but not on AI) There’s far more for Notion to lose “training customer data on AI” than for Notion to gain. Like if an AI feature ever disclosed private information of one customer to another, that would be a huge blow to the company. The closest thing to that that makes sense for us is building “learn to rank” style search models to improve search results, but this is not usually considered “AI” and…
For me, it seems that most of the notion users in my circle(very small one) are non-technical people. Even if your AI vomits some other user’s private data, it’ll be considered a glitch and will be forgiven because non-technical users does not panic or gets flame-baited because these are irrelevant to them. That being said, I appreciate that you understand the risk, and want to believe that the people on the helm of…
All the users in my circle are the opposite, they are all technical individuals. Largely developers for whatever reason.
I enjoyed Notion at first for certain tasks, but it became much less enjoyable as everyone tried to force everything into emoji-laden Notion docs. The Notion spaces used by the Product and Program managers I worked with in the past few years have become a collection of half-finished documents that are always out of date, hard to find, and often superseded by some new Notion page they created but forgot to tell us abo…
I think of company wikis as a place where information goes to die.
A useful feature, which I'm sure exists somewhere, would be "freshness" checks on pages. A timestamp for the last time someone looked at this and said "yes, this is still valid". For pages that are important, a team could set up recurring tasks for people to do periodic freshness checks.
Surely this is already a common practice, although not any team I've been on. Undoubtedly there is some ISO-9000 process for this...