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Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by 7952 »

Cd00d wrote: post #19

Is this a Kindle killer? I have the original iPad (twas free!), which I've really loved, but the cost is significant compared to the newer 7" tablets. I use the 3g a ton, but suppose I could fix that with a personal cellular wifi solution. But, being a Kindle (e-ink) user since inception, I've always felt that if it were my dollars talking, I'd go with the Fire. I can't justify the cost of the iPad, but could with th…

The lack of 3G is annoying. I keep hoping for a tablet that will sell to business in large volume. 3G is essential for this.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by mtgx »

whiskers wrote: post #70
MartinCron wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Google tablet is half the price of an iPad. If that's not competing on price, I don't know what is.

It's also 3" smaller, shorter battery life, much lower resolution, and maxes out at 16GB of storage. I suspect Google has priced this very competitively (low margins) specifically to compete with iPad by offering something half the price. If they'd put out a device with comparable features in screen, battery, and storage it would have had to be priced so close to the iPad that the question "why not just have an iPad?…

216 PPI vs 264 for the new iPad and vs 132 PPI for the old $400 iPad. How is that not extremely competitive? It even has a quad core processor compared to iPad's dual core.

Not sure what people are looking for to see them "competitive with the iPad". Would you be happy if it was 10% weaker on hardware but 5x cheaper? Would that make Android tablets "competitive" from your point of view?

I think the hardware is not a problem at all. It's the perception that Android doesn't have tablet apps, but on 7" tablet apps are almost a non-problem since most phone apps should work fine. The problem is a little bigger with 10" tablets. But at this point I really think the bigger issue is the perception. At this point even if Android had half the tablet apps of the iPad with with $100 cheaper price, people would still think it's not competitive.

In the same time, they seem to be excited about $600 Windows RT tablets with similar hardware as this Nexus 7 $200 tablet, that has no ecosystem of apps at all. So clearly this is much more about perception than it is about reality.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by endemic »

will_work4tears wrote: post #93
whiskers wrote: post #70

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It's also 3" smaller, shorter battery life, much lower resolution, and maxes out at 16GB of storage. I suspect Google has priced this very competitively (low margins) specifically to compete with iPad by offering something half the price. If they'd put out a device with comparable features in screen, battery, and storage it would have had to be priced so close to the iPad that the question "why not just have an iPad?…

I'd pay more than an iPad for a tablet with identical specs if it had replaceable batteries. I'll never, ever personally purchase an Apple product until they do.

I understand where you're coming from, but customers who want/need to swap out batteries themselves are too small of a market for Apple to care about. Unfortunately for you, the trend of ever-tighter industrial design (which means integrated batteries) only looks like it will continue.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by ok_craig »

guynamedloren wrote: post #22

I loooove Google, but I can't get over this "Play" nonsense. I get that it's short and (maybe) easy to remember, but it just sounds stupid. They certainly could have come up with a better name than that.

Really? It seems like it made sense and maybe sounded funny for like... two days. Now I kinda like it. I'm surprised that the hate for this name is sticking for so long for that many people.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by warfangle »

jamesaguilar wrote: post #35
btipling wrote: post #25

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Tablets are expensive. I cannot afford to buy a tablet every year. So I want a tablet that is future proof. The 10 inch tablets that others will release this year will have an outdated operating system on them and will still cost many hundreds of dollars. I do not want to spend hundreds of dollars on an outdated operating system. I love Android, but this terrible to the extreme.

I love that people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in the phone market when Google releases operating systems that don't even work on devices that came out in the current year.

"don't even work on other companies devices that they have no control over"

Fixed that for you. The Nexus (minus the G1) line of phones gets regular updates - my old Nexus One was always updated within a few weeks of a new version of android coming out. If you want updated OS software on your phone, be smart about which droid phone you get. Ain't goog's fault Samsung won't allow updates to Phone #4123.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by Achshar »

tonfa wrote: post #116
rayiner wrote: post #97

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No, they should do like Apple and not obsolete Android devices that aren't even released yet. It's part of making customers feel good about buying your product.

The Xoom is pretty old and should be getting JB.

The xoom 2 or the very first one? It got off from 3.1 and then got 3.2, 4.0 and now 4.1. That sounds like a nexus like update life. Is nexus 7 really the first google tablet?

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by shangaslammi »

bane wrote: post #91
btipling wrote: post #5

It ships with Jellybean... I've been waiting for the Samsung 10 inch tablet with the stylus, but it's already out of date and hasn't even shipped yet. I don't want a 7inch tablet and it is going to be years by the time a Jelly Bean 10 inch tablet comes out and by that time there will already be a new version of the OS! I already have a Fire and I can't read magazines on it, it's too small. I'm just going to give up a…

Or just get a 10 inch Samsung tablets and buy one of the stylus's that are available anyways. It's no different than an iPad with one of the 3rd party stylii.

I think he's talking about a stylus like in Galaxy Note, which is quite a different beast (proper pressure sensitivity and pen angle detection).
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