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Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#122This post somehow fell off the front page before California wakes up (9:07 ET), but not buried deep like buried posts usually are: > 57. OpenAI to Become For-Profit Company (wsj.com) 204 points by jspann 4 hours ago | flag | hide | 110 comments
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#123I never understood why people take non profit companies as more altruistic than for profit companies. The non profit doesnt mean no profits at all they still have to be profitable. It's just boils down to how the profits are distributed. There are plenty of sleezy institutions that are non profit like the NCAA. Foundations and charitable organizations that pubically get their funding are a different story but I'm tal…
Regarding the Packers: At least (unlike literally every other NFL team), they’re not using city tax revenue to build a franchise that can move across the country at the drop of a hat.
The NFL’s non-profit status is a farce though. Similarly, their misuse of copyright (“you cannot discuss this broadcast”) and the trademark “Super Bowl” (“cannot be used in factual statements regarding the actual Super Bowl”) should have their ownership of that ip revoked, if only because it causes massive confusion about the underlying law with a big chunk of the US population.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#124The most surprising thing to me in this is that the non-profit will still exist. Not sure what the point of it is anymore. Taken as a whole, OpenAI is now just a for-profit entity beholden to investors and Sam Altman as a shareholder. The non-profit is really just vestigial. I guess technically it's supposed to play some role in making sure OpenAI "benefits humanity". But as we've seen multiple times, whenever that g…
The non-profit side is just there to attract talent and encourage them to work harder b/c it's for humanity. Obviously people sniffed out the facts, realized it was all for profit and that lead to an exodus.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The most surprising thing to me in this is that the non-profit will still exist. That entity will scrape the internet and train the models and claim that "it's just research" to be able to claim that all is fair-use. At this point it's not even funny anymore.
Scraping the entire internet for training data without regard for copyright or attribution - specifically to use for generative AI to produce similar content for profit. How this is being allowed to happen legally is baffling. It does suit the modus operandi of a number of American companies that start out as literally illegal/criminal operations until they get big and rich enough to pay a fine for their youthful mis…
To me this is a no brainer. If it’s a choice between having AI and not,
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The most surprising thing to me in this is that the non-profit will still exist. That entity will scrape the internet and train the models and claim that "it's just research" to be able to claim that all is fair-use. At this point it's not even funny anymore.
Scraping the entire internet for training data without regard for copyright or attribution - specifically to use for generative AI to produce similar content for profit. How this is being allowed to happen legally is baffling. It does suit the modus operandi of a number of American companies that start out as literally illegal/criminal operations until they get big and rich enough to pay a fine for their youthful mis…
The people running the show are well connected and stand to make billions as do would be investors. Give a few key players a share in the company and they forget their government jobs to regulate.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scraping the entire internet for training data without regard for copyright or attribution - specifically to use for generative AI to produce similar content for profit. How this is being allowed to happen legally is baffling. It does suit the modus operandi of a number of American companies that start out as literally illegal/criminal operations until they get big and rich enough to pay a fine for their youthful mis…
To me this is a no brainer. If it’s a choice between having AI and not,
Even if the knock-on effect is "all the artists and thinkers who contributed to the uncompensated free training set give up and stop creating new stuff"?
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The most surprising thing to me in this is that the non-profit will still exist. That entity will scrape the internet and train the models and claim that "it's just research" to be able to claim that all is fair-use. At this point it's not even funny anymore.
Scraping the entire internet for training data without regard for copyright or attribution - specifically to use for generative AI to produce similar content for profit. How this is being allowed to happen legally is baffling. It does suit the modus operandi of a number of American companies that start out as literally illegal/criminal operations until they get big and rich enough to pay a fine for their youthful mis…
Everything is allowed to happen until there's a lawsuit over it. A lawsuit requires a plaintiff, who can only sue over the damage suffered by the plaintiff, so taking a little value from a lot of people is a way to succeed in business without getting sued.
Re: OpenAI to become for-profit company
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scraping the entire internet for training data without regard for copyright or attribution - specifically to use for generative AI to produce similar content for profit. How this is being allowed to happen legally is baffling. It does suit the modus operandi of a number of American companies that start out as literally illegal/criminal operations until they get big and rich enough to pay a fine for their youthful mis…
To me this is a no brainer. If it’s a choice between having AI and not,
Indeed a no brainer. The best possible outcome would be that OpenAI gets sued into oblivion (or shut down for tax fraud) as soon as possible.
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