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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by escapecharacter » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:34 PM UTC

bbor wrote: post #100

1. "The name Nazaré is the Portuguese version of Nazareth" ok y'all, I know you're working on edge tech, but lets cool the rhetoric down a little bit. Can't believe the PR-minded execs approved this choice. 2. "It was so challenging that we thought we had less than a 10% chance of pulling it off successfully." Definitely a targeted message to the activist investors urging FB to stick to social media haha. Love it, an…

Context: I'm a former CTRL Labs & Meta employee.

"neural" was a somewhat contentious term to academics, but it's the easiest way to describe to consumers. Academics consider neural interfaces to be directly touching the neurons, whether an invasive BCI, or an invasive device touching part of the peripheral nervous system. Technically this is a "neuromotor" interface, motor meaning detecting muscle, rather than neuron, activity. This makes academics happy but confuses some people, so neural it is.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by kaycebasques » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:34 PM UTC

For a long time it nagged at me that I was sleeping on VR/AR/XR. Couldn't bring myself to spend hundreds of dollars on something I may not use consistently, though. A few months back my wife was restoring a mural and one of the artists brought their Quest headset with Kingspray Graffiti loaded up on it. My wife tried it and loved it so I finally had enough excuse to buy a headset. It's pretty great. The first experience is quite memorable. My "killer app" is Xbox Cloud Gaming. I love laying on the couch with a gigantic, very high-quality screen immersing me in Starfield. Although two nights ago I think I got serious motion sickness. Haven't found any killer/sticky apps beyond that. But it's mission accomplished in the sense that I have crossed the gateway into the world of XR/VR/AR.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by wg0 » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:35 PM UTC

So product managers in these companies really think these products will make money and would become sustainable produc lone?

Or it's just muscle flex and show off?

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by dylan604 » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #60

Looking at all the reactions from first time users, it really made me want to try those. Quite large and apparently under 100g (to compare, the average weight for prescription glasses is 20-40g). That being said, nothing compared to a Quest. I would use this just for being able to see avatars when I talk to someone (I already take my calls walking using the Meta glasses).

Why do you need, er want, to see an avatar while talking to someone while walking?

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by baby » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

Fabricio20 wrote: post #49

Wow these look huge, I was expecting it from the comments but it still managed to surpass my expectations. I wonder if they managed to squeeze a battery in it and that's why it's so thick. Assuming it's light enough to not cause pain after some extended use it's a huge step up from the Quest series (and other VR headsets that cover your entire head pretty much!) and a completely different class of product compared to…

Quest 3 is 515g, Orion is <100g, so pretty good! But 3-4x a normal pair of glasses

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by JoshTriplett » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

Yet another nice piece of hardware hampered by attempting to lock people into a proprietary ecosystem. (And an AI-centric one at that.)

I would love to have a set of AR glasses. I would love to have a wide variety of features that they could enable. I'd like them to be at least as open as an Android phone is, or as open as a 2D monitor is.

Standard ports / standard wireless interfaces. Install your own software, not from an app store. Ability to use with any ecosystem.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by wongarsu » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

dcchambers wrote: post #18

Still kinda dorky looking but 10x better than what Snap unveiled last week.[^1] Software looks miles ahead of the AR glasses competition as well. Nice job FB engineers...keep cooking! [^1]: https://www.spectacles.com/

Aesthetically I prefer the visor look of the HoloLens.

However if you want to appeal to people outside a work environment something that looks like actual glasses is the way forwards. This looks like it still has a couple of years until it reaches that goal, but it seems like Zuckerberg's ambition towards XR will pay off eventually

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by sergiotapia » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by baby » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

roughly wrote: post #48

The older I get - and the older Facebook gets - the less I want these.

usually the older you get the more you need glasses :o)

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by wlesieutre » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:36 PM UTC

baby wrote: post #80

wlesieutre wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they do it like their current Ray Ban glasses, there's an LED on the front that lights up when it's recording. People will no doubt disable it though.

you can't disable it, and it doesn't really matter anyway because nobody seems to notice it. I have videos of all my friends the first time I run into them using the glasses, and none of them realize that I'm recording them unless I stare at them for long enough without moving.

You can't disable it in software.

You can put a piece of tape over it, fill it with black nail polish, let the smoke out of the LED, or otherwise keep the light from being visible.