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Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by qwertox »

qwertox wrote: post #71
boramalper wrote: post #15

I started using Nextcloud first to have an alternative to big-tech in case Google locks me out of my account, and then it became my daily driver. It's fast, private, and has mature clients for all major desktop and mobile platforms. Together with OnlyOffice, it's a good-enough substitute for Google Docs Editors (the office suite) for non-collaborative editing. I love self-hosting but file storage is one thing that I…

> I've been paying for Hetzner Storage Share [0] happily to save myself the headache. Assuming you start with NX11, which has 1TB storage, and before hitting the limit you want to upgrade to the 5TB storage, NX21. Can you just call Hetzner and tell them they should upgrade your NX11 plan to NX21 in-place, or will you have to order NX21 and then move all the data over to the new instance yourself?

To answer my own question:

  Scalability
  Stay flexible with your Storage Share. Regardless of how your requirements change over time, you can upgrade or downgrade your Storage Share in a few quick steps and without worrying about data loss. Simply switch between the Storage Share package size you need by going to your account on the konsoleH, and then to "Account type".
It's nice to see that they also offer the ability to downgrade.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by bakugo »

I wish the Android app for this wasn't so unstable and unintuitive, currently you can't even sync multiple selected files without it getting stuck on the "wait a moment" screen forever and forcing you to restart.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by jmhammond »

touggourt wrote: post #58
PikachuEXE wrote: post #37

In case some people don't know using NextCloud + floccus = great bookmark sync (I self hosting it but setup one on a cheap cloud VM is also fine) Not using NextCloud for anything else yet though

Thanks! I didn't know about that. There is some under documented good little tools that can sync between devices, browsers and Nextcloud : - Qownnotes for notes, selecting text from web pages and bookmarking (I'm curently testing it). - Someone told me that Zotero can do that too. - Vdirsyncer for synchronizing calendars and addressbook between NC and uncompatible apps (Odoo mainly).

Zotero can sync the actual entry’s media via WebDAV which Nextcloud handles very well. I’ve been using it since around 2019.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by akdev1l »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #49
obnauticus wrote: post #20

I originally wanted to do this but the CVE history is a bit too colorful for something I’d want to trust as a “cloud replacement”: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=nextcloud A common misconception IMO is that running and owning your own infrastructure is somehow more secure. To that I lol, and I’m confident that the thousands of AWS/GCP/Azure/iCloud security engineers are all doing a more thorough job…

I'm not a security specialist, but it seems to me that while managed services typically have better security and sysadmin resourcing, they also have the downside that their security can fail at a massive scale. If someone defeated the security of, say, GitHub, they could leak all the private repos stored there. Managed services also have to accept connections from the public Internet, which on-premises solutions do n…

> If someone defeated the security of, say, GitHub, they could leak all the private repos stored there.

In theory you are correct but this is like saying keeping your money under your mattress is safer than a bank.

Yes, in theory someone can still all the money at a bank but the bank is infinitely more qualified/competent to not get robbed than you would be.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by doubled112 »

TheChaplain wrote: post #116
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

I've run Nextcloud for almost 3 years now via docker on a vps , it hosts my contacts, calendars and files. There is a apache reverse proxy in front of it, and a postgresql-database in the back. Not once had I any serious issues updating when pulling new updated images. Occasionally it whines about missing indices, but that is easily fixed using the occ command line tool. The clients real IP is forwarded by the proxy.…

I have also found that if you stick to the core functionality it works fine.

As soon as I started to add apps from the store it starts to be a pain. An upgrade comes out and you’re stuck on that version until they all update, OR you update not realizing and lose the functionality for some time.

Since I self-host a bunch of apps, it made more sense to use different apps dedicated to those features, like Miniflux or Navidrome. Not for everybody though.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by mcfedr »

teruakohatu wrote: post #50
mcfedr wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Photoprisim Check it out, I've been very happy with that instead of Google photos.

I want to like it but it’s quasi-open source. As far as I understand, from the convoluted FAQ, paid Essentials members can’t access the source code, and they are gatekeeping some quite basic features behind Essentials membership. Reading between the lines I think it is closer to dual licensed. With extra conditions for the non-public source.

AGPL for all the public code, which is most of

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

lolinder wrote: post #101
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

> it wants to do everything and does none well I can't speak to the other points you made because this has always stopped me from investing in it. What I need in my stack is a focused Google Docs alternative, but every time I've installed it (3-4 times at this point) I'm quickly overwhelmed by the quantity of stuff it includes and by how complicated actually setting up the Docs replacement was (at the time the recomm…

> What I need in my stack is a focused Google Docs alternative

Try Etherpad (https://etherpad.org/)

> I ended up going with Seafile for file backups and have been very happy with it

I went through probably dozens of solutions and ended up with Syncthing for synchronization of data (it requires understanding how it works but once you do (usually an eureka kind of moment) this is a very powerful system.

For me using synchronization software (Seafile, Syncthing, ...) to do backups is dangerous. Borg is a very good solution (or Restik, or Kopia)

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

lolinder wrote: post #101
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

> it wants to do everything and does none well I can't speak to the other points you made because this has always stopped me from investing in it. What I need in my stack is a focused Google Docs alternative, but every time I've installed it (3-4 times at this point) I'm quickly overwhelmed by the quantity of stuff it includes and by how complicated actually setting up the Docs replacement was (at the time the recomm…

In a way, I have the same feeling. I really wanted it to work, but the install ( in my case via unraid ) broke multiple times after I started doing anything outside the basic functionality.

Eventually, I gave up on it and moved to dedicated apps for each portion I wanted and I have not looked back.

edit: syncthing for file sync wps-office for general doc work photoprism for pic library

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

TheChaplain wrote: post #116
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

I've run Nextcloud for almost 3 years now via docker on a vps , it hosts my contacts, calendars and files. There is a apache reverse proxy in front of it, and a postgresql-database in the back. Not once had I any serious issues updating when pulling new updated images. Occasionally it whines about missing indices, but that is easily fixed using the occ command line tool. The clients real IP is forwarded by the proxy.…

> Not once had I any serious issues updating when pulling new updated images

I've run it for about a year until the upgrade tipped me over. I am sure that correct upgrades (n to n+1) are fine - I tried n to n+2 and instead of explaining to me that this is not possible, Nextcloud explained to me that this is not possible and fucked up big my install. I had to recover from a backup.

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