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Re: Kagi Assistant

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Post by freediver »

dubme1 wrote: post #45

Paid Kagi user here. I REALLY wish Kagi would focus on it's core selling point: search. Building a search engine is hard enough. I use Kagi Search everyday and I am mostly happy with it but the product has a lot of room for improvment. Stop launching new products (browser, summarizer, gpt, assistant) while your core product is still behind the competition in many areas.

> while your core product is still behind the competition in many areas.

Care to explain what exactly do you mean by this?

Re: Kagi Assistant

#122

Post by xur17 »

freedomben wrote: post #79
SirYandi wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just plug your API keys into a front end like https://github.com/enricoros/big-AGI and pay as you go for all commercially available models

Have you tried open-webui?[1] I've been using that and really loving it, but wondering if I should try out big-AGI [1]: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui

Not to add more to the mix, but I've been very happy with Librechat: https://github.com/danny-avila/LibreChat

Re: Kagi Assistant

#123

Post by [deleted] »

DoughnutHole wrote: post #88
lotsofpulp wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Old Reddit (and other website) content might actually be more valuable given the higher likelihood of newer posts being spam/AI bot posts.

That disregards the fact that facts change over time. If you google “best DSLR camera reddit” it’s much less valuable if the results are 5 years old, even if they’re LLM free - the cameras on the market may very well have changed in that timeframe.

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Re: Kagi Assistant

#124

Post by jacekm »

dcchambers wrote: post #85
daft_pink wrote: post #31

I love Kagi and I’m a paid user, but I’m not willing to pay $25 per month for the assistants for the following reasons: * I already pay these companies directly and wouldn’t be able to cancel these as I use the voice assistant on my phone from ChatGPT and love using the artifacts from Claude on my computer * I’m also paying raycast to access these at the touch of my keyboard and prefer to quick access use it there I…

Maybe they'll offer a "bring your own API key" option some day. I imagine the intersect between paid Kagi users and paid LLM users is pretty high, and many people probably don't want to double-dip on LLM spending.

Highly unlikely, that would undermine their business model. For the same reason they don't offer pay as you go plan. Vlad explicitly stated somewhere that they are able to make money only because many people do not use their plans to the fullest.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#125

Post by freediver »

matsemann wrote: post #49

Isn't the point of a corporate blog to drive users to your product? Then why do the blogs never have an easy way of getting there? Clicking the logo and things in the header all just take me to the front page of the blog. Pet peeve of mine.

I think it is because bearblog (software we use, or at least the version we have) does not allow custom external in the navigation. But the product website is linked to in the very first sentence, and also from the home page of the blog. Still not good? :)

Re: Kagi Assistant

#127

Post by vvanders »

freedomben wrote: post #66
bossyTeacher wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you explain to me why Kagi is so good? I don't use Google Search so don't try the privacy card on me

I love being able to uprank, downrank, pin or blacklist specific domains/sites for my personal results. That alone makes it worth it. I also find the search results to be as good or better than Google. Once my personal ranking kicks in it's not even close.

The "forum" lens is worth it just for the cost of admission alone. Cuts through all the AI generated SEO garbage in an incredible effective way.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#128

Post by __jonas »

cube2222 wrote: post #14

To repeat myself from a recent HN thread: I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent! Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on. The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is excellent,…

I really wanted to like Kagi, I'm onboard with paying for search, but I've had had a big issue with its speed when doing the trial to be honest, am I the only one bothered by this?

Perhaps this is because I'm in Europe and it's faster in the US? A search request to Kagi seems to take around two seconds for me (shows as ~1s in the Kagi UI), it just feels really unpleasant compared to Google, I'm used to firing of a couple searches with different wording / terms and go through results quickly, feels like I'm being held back.

Maybe I'm spoiled, but if I'm paying for search I would really like it to be at least on par with Google, the search result quality seems ok from what I can tell, lenses don't really make sense to me, they seem to filter out too many results I would have liked to actually see, but the customization like adjusting the rating of individual websites is fantastic.

If they can manage to bring the speed to match that of Google, I'd be happy to pay for it I think.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#129

Post by kelnos »

cube2222 wrote: post #14

To repeat myself from a recent HN thread: I've been using Kagi for a while (almost two years now!) and it's been nothing but excellent! Lenses are very useful (Reddit lens is on every second search), and I personally really like the AI features they are working on. The new more advanced assistant which is able to do searches, which can also be constrained to lenses, and lets you pick an arbitrary model, is excellent,…

I've been using Kagi for a while too (wow, 2.5 years, didn't realize), and agree that the experience and search results have been excellent. I don't use lenses, but make heavy use of bangs, and I like that I can up- and down-weight domains and even ban domains outright.

But I don't really care about AI assistants. If these AI integrations will improve the bog-standard search experience (I type something in the search bar, get a list of results, and click the one I think will give me what I want), that's great. But if not, this is just noise to me.

Re: Kagi Assistant

#130

Post by kelnos »

eli wrote: post #83
msmithstubbs wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try this: https://kagi.com/search?q=remarkable+pro+site%3Areddit.com It includes Reddit results from less than 24 hours ago.

Ah hmm. Maybe they are doing something special with "site:reddit.com" queries. If I search for that exact Reddit post using the lens it isn't there. https://kagi.com/search?q=ReMarkable+Paper+Pro+hands-on+revi...

I don't think there's anything special; I very often get new-reddit results with no 'site:' qualifier. I can't think of a specific query offhand, but it happens multiple times daily for me.
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