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Some not most
I think you meant all. All moves when disaster comes. Meanwhile where there is food there is no need to move.
some people are farmers
How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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55% of American unicorn startups have at least one immigrant founder. Are you saying all those companies would still exist if there was no immigration? Extending the same logic, the British colonies never needed to be established. Native Americans would have started Nvidia on their own eventually. (“Silicon Cahokia?”)
> 55% of American unicorn startups
dubious and meaningless metric
> Native Americans would have started Nvidia on their own eventually. (“Silicon Cahokia?”)
doubtful. It takes Western Civilization culture to build great things. It's why every other culture wants to immigrate to Western civilization and no one wants to immigrate in the reverse direction.
Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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Immigrant from Europe right? That's where everyone in America came from. Same culture, same history, same values. Western civilization seems to create high trust societies that other cultures struggle to replicate. People say America was founded on immigration which is true but they neglect to say that it was immigration FROM EUROPE. Immigrants from non-western countries weren't allowed into America en masse until th…
Steve Jobs - Iranian? Fatih and his wife Eren Ozmen (Sierra Nevada Corporation) are Turkish. Sergey Brin... Russian? Seems every time you try to make some fundamentally discriminatory point the definition has to keep expanding form e.g. Britain, to EUROPE to Western to whatever. Democracy is Greek. Our counting system is Arabic. 0 is an Indian concept. etc etc etc. Progress is just a flame and people who know they ca…
you name a few dubious outlier discoveries their origins of which are contested but I'll give them to you.
> Progress is just a flame and people who know they can make it happen go to where other similar people are.
yet progress only seems to be happening in Western countries and has been for centuries and everyone continuously tries to immigrate to Western countries and never in the reverse direction.
I struggle to agree with you
Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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Immigrant from Europe right? That's where everyone in America came from. Same culture, same history, same values. Western civilization seems to create high trust societies that other cultures struggle to replicate. People say America was founded on immigration which is true but they neglect to say that it was immigration FROM EUROPE. Immigrants from non-western countries weren't allowed into America en masse until th…
> That's where everyone in America came from. Er, quite a lot came from Africa.
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Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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Both countries have a shortage of doctors, so yes.
That's not how it works. It depends on whether (how much) they are paid and if so what do they buy with that payment. Are they settled in US buying pizzas and Netflix? Because if not, then investments to Nigeria past $x will grant it the upperhand since all that money can get you another doctor and more.
Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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> didn't used to be That's false. By definition none would have come if there wasn't opportunity. You don't need to be a geography student to see that it wasn't just irreligious opportunity.
do you think opportunity just magically springs up in places or do you think people make it?
Both
Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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> didn't used to be That's false. By definition none would have come if there wasn't opportunity. You don't need to be a geography student to see that it wasn't just irreligious opportunity.
do you think opportunity just magically springs up in places or do you think people make it?
People who are looking for opportunity see a place where they could make it.
Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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a lot of insults and not a lot of information
Because when someone goes British and Russians "same culture, same history, same values"... And ends it with America is "high trust" like as if they never heard of Japan... And I still can't leave a darn Chromebook in the library for a 5min toilet break without losing it because the trust is so high.
Japan is an exception I'll give you that.
I live in a suburban town I can leave my stuff at a table and go to the restroom with no worries.
what do you think the difference between my town and yours is?
Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
#129How do all these people immigrate to the US? Is it all family-based? I work in technological field with many more opportunities in the US and have researched how to move there but it seems almost impossible. I know an American who applied for jobs in my country, got an offer and was over within a few months but that doesn't work the other way round.
You fly over and overstay your visa (indefinitely.) Neglecting any discussion of the legal ramifications, that is largely how it happens.
Re: How immigration remade the U.S. labor force
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For someone who has no immediate family in the USA (i.e. most people of the world) the reunification venue is closed. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here.
But for someone who has, the door is wide wide wide open.
Yes and if you have 10 million dollars you have options for wealth immigration, the door is wide wide open. Do you think that makes immigration to the USA incredibly easy?