Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

Post by perihelions » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 9:44 PM UTC

roomey wrote: post #108

chad1n wrote: post #53

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EU has been complaining about Telegram's end-to-end encryption for a long time and they want to implement some regulations to basically add backdoors into all messaging apps. I don't really see how this case will go on since at least private chats are encrypted so Telegram (theoretically at least) can't see the contents.

Here's the thing, all the politicians use WhatsApp. They actually don't want that backdoored, guaranteed.

Post by timeon » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 9:45 PM UTC

chucke1992 wrote: post #59

z_open wrote: post #25

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Why don't you post it yourself. And why should I care about what he says when telegram has some of the worst default encryption settings among commonly used messaging apps in the west?

Except Telegram is considered one of the most secured apps around. Obviously it cannot stop people from being stupid when they expose themselves. The very reason why France is not happy is that because they cannot get access to private chats and stuff. EU was (and is) pushing for the end of E2E encryption after all (it failed this time, but they will try again). Durov created Telegram because the russian government w…

Post by okcorral » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 9:45 PM UTC

ProAm wrote: post #106

mmsc wrote: post #82

Just think: all the companies that do illegal shit and get slaps on the wrist with a few thousand/million dollar fines. That's the only "consequence" for the executives that blew up the economy in 2008, the politicians that are in cahoots with company executives to funnel money into their pockets, the companies that spy on their own employees without due diligence or cause, the producers of products that knowingly ca…

We can be honest and the government realizes that it's not just talking. At least for the conversations they are concerned about. *EDIT* I dont agree with it, but Ive seen governments do far worse with far less.

Post by arlort » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 9:45 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #57

chucke1992 wrote: post #23

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> I don't believe there are any western nations that want non-locally-backdoored messaging of any sort But that's what exactly they want no? EU is literally implementing a regulation that will allow to "circumvent end-to-end encryption to address child sexual abuse material". I believe it failed to pass recently, but they will try again - and nothing stops countries to implement it independently. I think France is th…

A handful of EU MEPs keep pushing backdoored encryption and it keeps getting veto’d. There are two legistive bodies in the EU, one is only allowed to propose law, the other is only allowed to vote on it. Lots of braindead laws get put to a vote, theres no requirement that they get through. I understand that raising the alarm is helpful, but it would be helpful if people took a second to understand how the EU works, t…

Post by underlogic » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 9:46 PM UTC

ProAm wrote: post #106

mmsc wrote: post #82

Just think: all the companies that do illegal shit and get slaps on the wrist with a few thousand/million dollar fines. That's the only "consequence" for the executives that blew up the economy in 2008, the politicians that are in cahoots with company executives to funnel money into their pockets, the companies that spy on their own employees without due diligence or cause, the producers of products that knowingly ca…

We can be honest and the government realizes that it's not just talking. At least for the conversations they are concerned about. *EDIT* I dont agree with it, but Ive seen governments do far worse with far less.