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AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Post by llm_trw »

cm2012 wrote: post #103
darkwater wrote: post #101

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How do you know that? Are you a doctor?

Ask chatgpt -> get advice-> double check on Google- > try advice -> my medical issue is solved This has happened to me 3-4 times, hasn't sent me wrong yet. Meanwhile I've had doctors misdiagnose me or my wife a bunch of times in my life. Doctors may have more knowledge but they barely listen, and often don't keep up with the latest stuff.

This is one thing people who shit on chatbots don't get. It doesn't need to be god to be useful, it just needs to beat out a human who is bored, underpaid, and probably under qualified.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Post by dyauspitr »

axitanull wrote: post #94
dyauspitr wrote: post #88

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Who cares. I literally use ChatGPT 30 times a day. It answers incredibly complex queries along with citations I can verify. Isn’t “this not good enough yet” line getting old? There nothing else that can estimate the number of cinder blocks I need to use for a project and account for the volume of concrete required for it (while taking into consideration the actual available volume available in a cinder block and sett…

Not sure if this is a sarcasm or "you are holding it wrong" moment.

If you’re unaware of how something can help you, learning how can only improve your outcome.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Post by llm_trw »

Loughla wrote: post #52
findmore77 wrote: post #36

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Factually incorrect about the genesis of the internet or even the “mass” internet. But, okay.

I mean, the Internet really seemed to take off when people realized they could get free porn, to be honest. I'm betting the adoption curve for AI hits when the first company sells photorealistic porn of anyone you have a picture of. Hell, half ass Photoshop porn is lucrative already.

You can do that with local models already.

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Post by hobs »

nunez wrote: post #117
necroforest wrote: post #49

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I don't entirely disagree with you, but "what products do people want" is overly conservative. Pre-ChatGPT, very few people wanted a (more or less) general purpose chatbot.

Chatbots were HUGE in the late 2010s!

And they hugely sucked, and basically were a sign you were dealing with either a fly by night company or a corporation so faceless and shitty you'd never willingly do business with them.

It was literally replacing a hierarchical link tree and that almost always was easier to use.

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Post by EasyMark »

rustypotato wrote: post #26

> But when developers put AI in consumer products, people expect it to behave like software, which means that it needs to work deterministically. If your AI travel agent books vacations to the correct destination only 90% of the time, it won’t be successful. This is the fundamental problem that prevents generative AI from becoming a "foundational building block" for most products. Even with rigorous safety measures i…

But a knowledgeable human can take the iternarary and run with it. I know I’ve done that with code enough from AI generated stuff, it’s basically boiler plate. You still run it through the same tests, reviews, and verification as you would have had to do anyway.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Post by EasyMark »

23B1 wrote: post #29

Well the whole 'creating gods' thing is just silly fantasy nonsense to cover up for what's really going on, which is novelty and gimmicks. It's okay, I mean even the internet started out as Charlie_Bit_Me.avi and free porn.

I’m not sure what book you read on the origins of the internet but it is very very far off from the actual truth.

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Post by lallysingh »

ryandrake wrote: post #34

Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying "We have AI, let's find products we can make out of AI!" they should be saying, "What products do people want, let's use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them." The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. "We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made wi…

That requires they you understand the capabilities and limitations of the tech way better than anyone does. So instead "let's see what we can do with this" is the underlying approach.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Post by KineticLensman »

tux1968 wrote: post #75
ryandrake wrote: post #34

Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying "We have AI, let's find products we can make out of AI!" they should be saying, "What products do people want, let's use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them." The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. "We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made wi…

It was likely the same back when the steam engine was invented. Everyone who could start a steam engine company, started a steam engine company. Because learning how to be a steam engine company was difficult, new, and unique. It would be a while before finding all the products that could be sold to people incorporating that new tech.

Tech was very different then. The first commercial steam Engine appeared in 1712 - big static thing thing that could pump water out of mines. It took about about 100 years until 1804 to get to a steam engine small but powerful enough to pull a train. Mines and factories were pretty much the only users for decades and there were very few people who had a steam engine for the sake of it

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Post by honestjohn »

ryandrake wrote: post #34

Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying "We have AI, let's find products we can make out of AI!" they should be saying, "What products do people want, let's use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them." The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. "We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made wi…

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