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Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by tjoff »

godshatter wrote: post #114

One pet peeve of mine is "human readable dates", especially for a directory listing. If I'm scanning for something I copied into a folder yesterday amongst other things, I don't want everything to show "1 day ago" if I'm looking for something I did around 11am. I want the dates and times. That goes for forums like HN. Show me the date/time and also "7 hours ago" or whatever if you have to. I've never understood takin…

Yeah that is such an amazing anti-feature. And how do you deal with changes? Like, when does 1 day ago become 2 days ago? According to google it becomes two days ago after 48 hours. That means if you look at your phone after 47 hours it will say 1 day ago and you'll be tricked into it happening yesterday. Human readable my ass.

Or, you know the specific day because it was the day after your friends birthday or whatever. And you try to find a specific item, but you have to sift through an entire months of shit because all the information you get is "three months ago".

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by TheBengaluruGuy »

dlivingston wrote: post #119
godshatter wrote: post #114

One pet peeve of mine is "human readable dates", especially for a directory listing. If I'm scanning for something I copied into a folder yesterday amongst other things, I don't want everything to show "1 day ago" if I'm looking for something I did around 11am. I want the dates and times. That goes for forums like HN. Show me the date/time and also "7 hours ago" or whatever if you have to. I've never understood takin…

I agree. GitHub does this too on commits. "foo.cpp modified last year." It makes no sense, at least without the ability to view additional datetime information.

Often I want to see exact what time I made a commit to correlate it with some error code and it’s only giving it by day. Such a bummern

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by desireco42 »

I will join others here to point out that information in readme is not presented the best way.

I am developer so I understand this, if you just take feedback from this post here and apply it, it will be much better.

- It is not fair to say ls is not maintained

- Clarify this is for of exa, I am familiar with exa, I wasn't sure what eza was.

- Give example how it can be used, alias ls="exa " for example, give few example of usage, not everyone is following your repo every day.

Thank you for work you've put into this.

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by creshal »

chippiewill wrote: post #108
creshal wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're completely missing the point. ~/.programname is an unorganized mess, where someone stuff their dirty laundry, their trash, their food and their passport into the same closet. It doesn't matter if the closet is open or not, nobody but the mentally ill hoarder who created the mess can navigate it. ~/.(local|share|cache) means people put their food in the fridge, their trash into the bin and their sensitive docum…

The one thing I despise about local|share|config is I never know which one they're using or what kind of nested hierarchy they're using that means I might have to search for the company name first. At least with the ~/.whatever system I can just start typing ~/.tool-name, hit tab and it'll show me the thing if it exists. If it's somewhere else I have to look it up.

It's not like ~/.whatever has ever been used consistently:

- ~/.mozilla/firefox, but: ~/.thunderbird and ~/.pki/nssdb (gonna keep you on your toes!)

- Java defaults to .full.package.name (on top of using .java, .openjfx, and others)

- Fontconfig uses `fc-*` for its tools. Naturally, its config file used to be in ~/.fonts.conf.d before they finally accepted standard directories

- arandr, as the name implies, uses .screenlayout

- The sooner the .net ecosystem decides if it wants to use ~/.dotnet or ~/.mono, the better (humble suggestion: ~/..net)

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by fngjdflmdflg »

dlivingston wrote: post #119
godshatter wrote: post #114

One pet peeve of mine is "human readable dates", especially for a directory listing. If I'm scanning for something I copied into a folder yesterday amongst other things, I don't want everything to show "1 day ago" if I'm looking for something I did around 11am. I want the dates and times. That goes for forums like HN. Show me the date/time and also "7 hours ago" or whatever if you have to. I've never understood takin…

I agree. GitHub does this too on commits. "foo.cpp modified last year." It makes no sense, at least without the ability to view additional datetime information.

You can hover over the date for an exact timestamp. Maybe someone can write a userscript to replace the relative dates to exact ones.

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by elashri »

ehutch79 wrote: post #116
elashri wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No the maintained here means it is a maintained (replacment) with reference that it is a fork of exa which was a ls replacment that is not maintained anymore. It does not say that ls is not maintained.

Look at the title above. It only says Eza and ls. It says eza is maintained, which tells me the other,ls, is not maintained. Doesn’t mention exa. Yes it’s missing nuance if you don’t click through, but that’s a complete statement, and I wouldn’t expect people to click through to get more context

I agree with you that their usage of language is ambiguous and should be clear. I was just explaining the situation not defending the description.

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by tutipop »

networked wrote: post #22
alabhyajindal wrote: post #3

My ls usage went down 100% after I switched to fish shell. The built in Alt + l command lists the directory contents. Very helpful! And also results in a cleaner shell history.

Nice tip. What got rid of most of my use of `ls` in fish was running `ls` automatically when you changed directories: function ls_on_cd --on-variable PWD ls end

I do the same in bash, but it's a bit wordier:

  _chpwd_hook() {
    if [[ "$PWD" != "$PREVPWD" ]]; then
      ls
      PREVPWD="$PWD"
    fi
  }

  PROMPT_COMMAND=(_chpwd_hook)
Goes well with

  shopt -s autocd
  alias r='cd -'

Re: Eza: A modern, maintained replacement for ls

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Post by igorguerrero »

fngjdflmdflg wrote: post #127
dlivingston wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. GitHub does this too on commits. "foo.cpp modified last year." It makes no sense, at least without the ability to view additional datetime information.

You can hover over the date for an exact timestamp. Maybe someone can write a userscript to replace the relative dates to exact ones.

Yeah this makes it better, but I've found some sites that don't do that, blogs and news articles where it's impossible to find the date of published... Is it a SEO trick to make your content always relevant?
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