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Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures

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To be honest I’m more surprised that this isn’t just how things are everywhere.

If only other cultures were afraid of being judged.

So afraid they'd rather kill people than be late. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amagasaki_derailment

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Or just let people work from home if they can? Society seems to be dead set on certain ceremonies that aren’t technically needed.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/remote-work-statisti... "As of 2023, 12.7% of full-time employees work from home", this appears to be data for USA only. Certainly that percentage can be increased, but not all jobs can be worked remotely. It will help congestion but won't eliminate it. Also, fun fact, not all traffic during rush hour is from commuting to work.

The biggest traffic determinant in my city’s (Brisbane, Australia) rush hour is school children by far

I think it’s the fact school buses are rare in Australia and the doubling (or often tripling due to low co-ed rates here) of the commutes for parents dropping them off

I have no children

School not on? My commute is 7-10 minutes in rush hour. School on? 25-35 minutes in rush hour

In saying this I know there are other confounding variables here (eg location or but parents aligning their holidays with their children’s), but I feel like there should be some direct consultation between our City Council and Schools as it directly impacts all residents of the city

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It is generally not a huge difference in small systems like you find in college towns. It is a pretty substantial portion of most major transit agency budgets; BART for example has a farebox recovery of about a third. If you were to totally make it free you would need to basically increase the other sources of funding by 50%.

LA metro fairbox recovery is like 5% fwiw. Look up median income levels too on that system and you might be inclined to slash fares.

the argument has always been, is it better to spend that 5% on making it free, or is it better to spend that on making services more useful so that people actually switch to it?

The cost is not really the reason LA Metro ridership is so low and farebox recovery is so low.

Re: Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures

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I only recently discovered Densha De GO! and apparently the most recent game in the series is based around this very line. Very interesting to see these photos, I love the vibe, and it makes me appreciate all the detail that went into the game.

One of the scoring metrics in Densha De GO is how accurate the stopping location is. I watched a friend play the game, who was commonly stopping less than 5mm from the proper location.

Re: Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures

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What’s interesting about this? Yeah you can nap on the Yamanote line. But it’s just a train.

Yamanote is one of the best passenger train lines in the world, when you take into consideration the number of passengers, the quality of service, the cost, and the economic impact. Some of us think that is beautiful.

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Wholly unrelated but one thing that struck me about the photos here is that almost all the people in them are looking at phones. This was a little crazy to me in the times I have visited, when I would get on the train and there was this eerie silence as almost every person was looking at their phone. No real point to my anecdote, just an observation. Also the stained glass(maybe just acrylic or something) at Mejiro S…

Is this different anywhere else? https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/cell-phones-people-subway-...

You really used a search specifically of people on their cell phones in subways as your proof that its the same everywhere? Wild.

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>I'm sure there are alternatives since mass transit has been around since before phones. Japanese novels are sold in small, pocket sized volumes because this was the only way to properly read on the packed trains before the smartphone replaced them all. If you were on a train with a lot more students, you'd notice a lot of them studying with similarly small volumes. >what struck me was that most people did not seem t…

>Or if you're sitting down, you will most likely be staring at someone's pelvic area because the convention is to stand FACING the chair in front of you if you're standing in the middle of the car (I still find this so strange but oh well so goes convention). I don't know exactly why the convention is this way, but imagine if it was the reverse: you'd have someone's butt in your face, and if they fart...

Have had this happen to me. Horrid experience.

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If you've ever stayed in the heart of Tokyo you know the JR Yamanote line well. What a feat for Japan to have it. I always thought trains (light rail, high speed, what ever) were so much better than cars. Have more traffic? Just add more trains, no extra rails needed. Yamanote line rush hour showed me how effective that is AND how you might need more rail eventually. Rush hour had a train there every ~2 minutes and t…

JR Yamanote line is a circular or loop line in the middle of Tokyo not unlike Circle line for London Tube.

Naturally circular line will be the most popular since other lines are moving radially from city center thus travelling between two nearby places can take longer by changing trains if they're not on the same the line.

Case in point, Bordeaux city in southwest of France currently has no circular tram line (yet) hence most of the public transport users are relying on the buses to go to the nearby places that are close but on different tram lines.

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