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Seems a bit ambitious for only less than a dozen full-time engineers in two years.
I was thinking the exact opposite. Considering what they already have, 2 years seems very far away for an initial alpha.
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This is only the second time i've seen this project so maybe this is just your perspective.
Twenty hours ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40845954 Also twenty hours ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40845951 One day ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40838973 Along with 60 other threads you can see by clicking the link I posted.
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Hey Andreas! Why you don’t just fork the code of Firefox or Chromium's and start from that point, building a Browser company like some others?
Hey kosolam! There are already many forks and ports of existing browsers. Do we really need another one? :) By building a new engine, we can increase ecosystem diversity and put all these open standards to the test. We regularly find, report, and sometimes even fix bugs in the various web standards - stuff we find just by being the first to try and implement everything from scratch in a long time! We also believe it’…
Shopify is a platinum sponsor. Big respect.
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Don't throw money away into non-browser related projects while constantly pissing off your loyal userbase.
Look, I am as annoyed as you are with the constant barrage of "rewritten in Rust" projects, but if Mozilla did not try various other projects that are not browser, there would be no Rust.
But I'm actually ok with a lot of the non-firefox projects that they have like the VPN.
What I do have an issue with is the foundation, throwing money away at various projects that have very little to do with making firefox better. From "trusworthy AI" research grants to giving 387k to the Mckensie Mack group or 375k to the New Venture Fund (I get Mozilla are lefties but what does this have to do with Firefox?) plus some other organizations that I can't even tell if they aren't just money laundering fronts as they don't appear to actually do anything.
That and the C-Suite being complete parasites. The CEO of Mozilla corp makes almost as much in a year as the Mozilla foundation makes from donations.
Remove the parasites and the senseless spending of the foundation and you could develop Firefox with the ~20% of revenue that doesn't come from Google.
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I was thinking the exact opposite. Considering what they already have, 2 years seems very far away for an initial alpha.
Firefox and Chromium have 30+ million lines of code (excluding comments and blank lines). You underestimate the complexity of a web browser.
This of course comes at the cost of not being able to support non-free parts of the web standard such as DRM.
The risk of exploits is too high
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Thanks F3nd0! There are currently no plans to switch to a less permissive license. And we're perfectly happy using proprietary services like GitHub and Discord as long as they make our work easier and more enjoyable. We recently evaluated a number of alternatives, and found that they all introduced more friction than we were comfortable with. Although the task of building a browser is itself challenging, we're a prag…
> There are currently no plans to switch to a less permissive license. Hey, just a reality check: in the event that you actually do become wildly successful, this means that others (Google, Microsoft, etc.) will be able to fork the browser and then develop it faster than you - thus leaving you behind and taking away your users ! Would highly recommend leaving yourself some mechanism to prevent that, unless you're rea…
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It depends on what you mean by “Mozilla’s fate”. In general, we are setting a much narrower goal than Mozilla and hope that focusing on only browsers will allow us to keep things simple and more sustainable financially. :)
Mozilla is dependent on advertising money from Google, is that only because they ventured in other directions? I'm not intimate with their finances, but it seems just building a browser is a large enough - expensive - R&D effort. Are you planning on charging your users?