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Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by eastbound »

mdeeks wrote: post #52
spike021 wrote: post #43

I started using Keychain pretty much primarily this year (other than 1Password at work) and it works pretty seamlessly for me (granted Apple devices only). Even the Chrome extension works quickly as if it were a native part of Chrome. Glad they're splitting it out of System Settings into a dedicated app. I've also started migrating family members to it. It'll be way easier for the less technical people since it's alr…

Does the Chrome extension still require you to enter a six digit code every day to even use it? When I tried it this was incredibly annoying and I switched back to 1password shortly after.

It’s important, otherwise that means any locally-running binary (maven, npm) can steal all of your passwords, since they are in clear on your computer.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by pdpi »

throw0101d wrote: post #120
mmanfrin wrote: post #35

Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. Apple devices already basically have a password manager, the main reason more people don't use it it is because it doesnt also work on android or windows, not because it's not a standalone app called Passwords.

> Pointless if it doesnt have cross platform. As mentioned in another news article on the topic: > It also syncs with PCs via the iCloud for Windows app. * https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/10/24175505/apple-password-a... and in the keynote itself: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeOiIDNNek&t=59m32s

Last I tried it, iCloud for Windows didn't integrate with Firefox, though.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by lowbloodsugar »

jwells89 wrote: post #87

Timely with how official support for the old 1Password 7 apps probably won’t be continued for too much longer, with 1Password pushing users over to the notably worse v8 apps. I’ll probably switch.

Right. 1Password 7 is the last one to have private vaults. After that dies, I have no reason to use 1Password over anything else. SSH? Yeah, need that for work - which absolutely bans storing those on the cloud.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by criddell »

eastbound wrote: post #121
mdeeks wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the Chrome extension still require you to enter a six digit code every day to even use it? When I tried it this was incredibly annoying and I switched back to 1password shortly after.

It’s important, otherwise that means any locally-running binary (maven, npm) can steal all of your passwords, since they are in clear on your computer.

Does macOS sandbox things like maven or npm? Do they need read access for everything the user can see?

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by selykg »

jwells89 wrote: post #87

Timely with how official support for the old 1Password 7 apps probably won’t be continued for too much longer, with 1Password pushing users over to the notably worse v8 apps. I’ll probably switch.

The biggest reason I'm moving away from 1Password is the abysmal support for Safari Profiles. It's so bad it's ridiculous.

Right now for instance I have a Personal profile, and a few work specific ones around admin, development, and my day-to-day work to split things off easily. I have 1Password unlocked in one profile and it works in that, but if I switch to any other profile it needs to be unlocked, then it tells me it needs to reload the extension. Reloading it doesn't do anything but break it again. I have to fully quit Safari then it works again for some unknown amount of time then falls apart completely soon after (probably laptop sleep or something like that).

Just a shitshow all around from 1Password anymore. How the mighty have fallen due to profits and investors.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by ipqk »

I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years untouched. The value is increasingly not there anymore for me, and here's hoping I can finally jump ship this fall.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by Toutouxc »

duxup wrote: post #72
spike021 wrote: post #43

I started using Keychain pretty much primarily this year (other than 1Password at work) and it works pretty seamlessly for me (granted Apple devices only). Even the Chrome extension works quickly as if it were a native part of Chrome. Glad they're splitting it out of System Settings into a dedicated app. I've also started migrating family members to it. It'll be way easier for the less technical people since it's alr…

I often was looking to see "do I have that in keychain" and ... I'd forget where to find it as it wasn't a dedicated app.

You’re both talking about iOS, right? Because on the Mac it’s always been a dedicated app.

Re: Apple unveils 'Passwords' manager app at WWDC 2024

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Post by criddell »

teolandon wrote: post #33
boringg wrote: post #24

Password manager apps have been put on notice.

Not while people can't use the Apple one on Linux or Android.

I think for a lot of the password managers out there, the majority of their revenue comes from Apple users. The ones that don't rely on Apple users will be fine.
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