Secret Hand Gestures in Paintings (2019)

Post by dpig_ » Sat, Jun 08, 2024, 12:07 AM UTC

kjkjadksj wrote: post #58

runjake wrote: post #35

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32° Freemason here. The images and descriptions do not match any masonic hand positions I am aware of. However, there were numerous other fraternities and secret societies during that era, although they were typically gender-specific. Seeing both men and women using the same hand signals suggests these were likely common societal practices of the time. And since, presumably the hand positions are secret, they're not…

Sometimes with these sorts of organizations their deepest secrets are the meaning of their public symbology.

Post by marginalia_nu » Sat, Jun 08, 2024, 1:18 AM UTC

massinstall wrote: post #31

From the publication: “The speculation that the hand gesture herein presented is a freemasonry’s conveyed code is fascinating, but it is hard to accept.” This sentence concluded a very short paragraph that apparently aimed to explore whether the hand sign could have a Masonic meaning. But instead of giving any explanation for their conclusion, the authors merely postulate the above without any given reasoning. I’m su…

Post by coliveira » Sat, Jun 08, 2024, 2:34 AM UTC

runjake wrote: post #35

massinstall wrote: post #31

From the publication: “The speculation that the hand gesture herein presented is a freemasonry’s conveyed code is fascinating, but it is hard to accept.” This sentence concluded a very short paragraph that apparently aimed to explore whether the hand sign could have a Masonic meaning. But instead of giving any explanation for their conclusion, the authors merely postulate the above without any given reasoning. I’m su…

32° Freemason here. The images and descriptions do not match any masonic hand positions I am aware of. However, there were numerous other fraternities and secret societies during that era, although they were typically gender-specific. Seeing both men and women using the same hand signals suggests these were likely common societal practices of the time. And since, presumably the hand positions are secret, they're not…

Post by mkl » Sat, Jun 08, 2024, 4:37 AM UTC

standardly wrote: post #117

karaterobot wrote: post #67

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There were enough basic grammatical errors in that article—not to mention a general lack of clarity and specificity—that I initially wondered whether it was a preprint, or maybe somebody's blog. But no.

"According to this hypothesis, the gesture was a secret sign used to recognize crypto-jews each other" "According to this hypothesis, the gesture was a secret sign used to recognize masonic followers each other" I have never heard this verbiage before... Did an AI write this? Or, can someone explain to me how "used to recognize followers each other" is grammatically sound?

Post by toast0 » Sat, Jun 08, 2024, 5:28 AM UTC

endofreach wrote: post #86

runjake wrote: post #85

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There's a surprising amount that aren't. And even then: 1. Every Freemason knows what's on the Internet. Identifications have evolved. 2. The leaks lack... important contexts... about what they are.

But what are they actually used for? The only things i heard about freemasonry were from conspiracy theorists. But i never really found out, what they actually do. And the secret handshakes are performed with strangers to tell each other secretly they're unknown brothers?