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Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

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Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

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> "The system would do two things. It would draw an absolutely beautiful picture of a nude lady, ..." Lena? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna )

But she is not nude on this pic, right?

The square crop used as a test image is just her face, but the original, full-page shot shows all her body, and she is very much nude.

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

#124

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I'll elaborate then.

@contingencies was telling a personal anecdote about his own life, which happened to involve meeting someone while that someone was still in the closet.

Unprovoked, you decided to take umbrage with this. There was no reason to do so.

In doing that, you dragged the thread off-topic and continued to escalate.

That was wrong. You shouldn't conduct yourself in such a fashion.

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'll elaborate then. @contingencies was telling a personal anecdote about his own life, which happened to involve meeting someone while that someone was still in the closet. Unprovoked, you decided to take umbrage with this. There was no reason to do so. In doing that, you dragged the thread off-topic and continued to escalate. That was wrong. You shouldn't conduct yourself in such a fashion.

> Unprovoked, you decided to take umbrage with this. There was no reason to do so.

I found it curious that they mentioned it, and described why I thought it was inappropriate. Contrast this with them, who presented their own off-topic anecdote without justification. The original “provocation” as you call it was by them, by presenting someone’s sexual orientation as a curiosity like some kind of carnival barker.

> In doing that, you dragged the thread off-topic and continued to escalate.

Asking for clarification and pleading for adherence to the site guidelines is no escalation. It’s a conversation. You and they are the ones making it adversarial, then gaslighting me for my original points made.

> That was wrong. You shouldn't conduct yourself in such a fashion.

I disagree, but even if your points were justifiable, which I don’t believe they are, you are dogpiling by framing the issue as you have done. That was and is wrong. You shouldn’t conduct yourself in such a fashion.

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

#126

This is the first time I've heard someone refer to DEC as "Digital." Is that an Australian quirk? Not that it's wrong, as it is part of the name and could likely be a regional expression and/or historically accurate, and in any case it's before my time in the industry. > but was yet to announce he was gay (took another decade) I don't know why this detail was included; not that it's anything to be ashamed of. It just…

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Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll elaborate then. @contingencies was telling a personal anecdote about his own life, which happened to involve meeting someone while that someone was still in the closet. Unprovoked, you decided to take umbrage with this. There was no reason to do so. In doing that, you dragged the thread off-topic and continued to escalate. That was wrong. You shouldn't conduct yourself in such a fashion.

> Unprovoked, you decided to take umbrage with this. There was no reason to do so. I found it curious that they mentioned it, and described why I thought it was inappropriate. Contrast this with them, who presented their own off-topic anecdote without justification. The original “provocation” as you call it was by them, by presenting someone’s sexual orientation as a curiosity like some kind of carnival barker. > In…

Please don't get sucked in to spats like this on HN. I know it's not always easy but it's an effort we all need to make.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'll elaborate then. @contingencies was telling a personal anecdote about his own life, which happened to involve meeting someone while that someone was still in the closet. Unprovoked, you decided to take umbrage with this. There was no reason to do so. In doing that, you dragged the thread off-topic and continued to escalate. That was wrong. You shouldn't conduct yourself in such a fashion.

Please don't get sucked in to spats like this on HN. I know it's not always easy but it's an effort we all need to make.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

#129

This is the first time I've heard someone refer to DEC as "Digital." Is that an Australian quirk? Not that it's wrong, as it is part of the name and could likely be a regional expression and/or historically accurate, and in any case it's before my time in the industry. > but was yet to announce he was gay (took another decade) I don't know why this detail was included; not that it's anything to be ashamed of. It just…

PC shutdowns have no place on HN, we deal in facts. It was included because I personally felt that it was an interesting historic tidbit... especially since he'd flipped from suit to flip-flops and commercial unix to Linux, but still kept this secret. No doubt in those days executives with career plans probably had to keep such things unknown. Can't comment on Digital analogues. Re. classic PC shutdown emotive, chara…

Please don't get sucked in to spats like this on HN. I know it's not always easy but it's an effort we all need to make.

I realize the latter part of the GP comment was provocative but please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Don Estridge: A misfit who built the IBM PC

#130

This is the first time I've heard someone refer to DEC as "Digital." Is that an Australian quirk? Not that it's wrong, as it is part of the name and could likely be a regional expression and/or historically accurate, and in any case it's before my time in the industry. > but was yet to announce he was gay (took another decade) I don't know why this detail was included; not that it's anything to be ashamed of. It just…

There's nothing wrong with including irrelevant details if they make a comment more interesting; and I don't see what was insensitive or judgmental in the GP.

"Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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