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I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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So? You should still develop for. Why? For this whole reason. What does it matter? You should target all audiences. Why not?

> Why not? Because it's extra work.

More work than having to push a bug to the developer when making a custom package than the developer fixing the bug natively for that package?

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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So? You should still develop for. Why? For this whole reason. What does it matter? You should target all audiences. Why not?

Why BSD and not Haiku?

Yeah, why not.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Oh yes, a MacOS like design but open with Unix, that would be amazing!

macOS is unix... And he seems to not want macOS type design. Unless you mean System 8/9.

Modern macOS design is reasonably consistent but with fewer visual cues - still a step above Windows post-7. And yes, I meant the bezels and skeuomorphism of earlier design - exemplified by Windows 9x-2k and System 8/9, while NeXT and IRIX also deserve a shout.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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I agree (apart from the popular hate on Firefox). Ladybird is promising and has a much bigger chance to make an impact than SerenityOS. But it's a bit disappointing to see that it's still pretty much a one-man project. Especially to have a chance to get close to the performance of Chrome and Firefox, it will need a large investment. The amount of engineering resources poured into just making JavaScript fast is mind-n…

On recent hardware, how much "performance" do we really need? Wouldn't almost any compliant browser be basically good enough?

As an embedded developer it always makes me sad to see physicists and engineers pushing the limits of physics to make faster hardware, just for devs to squander that power with lazy programming.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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KHTML+KJS released in 1998, via WebKit from 2001, in 2008 it gained the Chrome name, but the code has more than 20 years of legacy.

> KHTML+KJS released in 1998, via WebKit from 2001, in 2008 it gained the Chrome name, but the code has more than 20 years of legacy. Why do you want the oldest code to be less than 20 years old? Why is that "nice"?

Because 20 years is like half the history of modern computing. A lot has changed in a small amount of time

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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I think the Firefox hate is completely justified. At this point the only positive thing about Firefox is that "at least it's not Chrome".

As a Firefox user, this exactly. The amount of things that now need to be toggled off on a new install are approaching Windows “telemetry” levels: disable sponsored shortcuts on homepage, disable experimental “Studies”, sponsored suggestions in search bar, “suggested extensions”, Pocket, and the list goes on. I really need to look into a privacy friendly fork of FF..

> I really need to look into a privacy friendly fork of FF..

I'd love to make the jump too, just that I rely upon FF sync too much. It's handy getting your bookmarks and other details on mobile devices. The other forks look to be desktop only.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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> KHTML+KJS released in 1998, via WebKit from 2001, in 2008 it gained the Chrome name, but the code has more than 20 years of legacy. Why do you want the oldest code to be less than 20 years old? Why is that "nice"?

Because 20 years is like half the history of modern computing. A lot has changed in a small amount of time

So what? Code doesn't rust.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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Because 20 years is like half the history of modern computing. A lot has changed in a small amount of time

So what? Code doesn't rust.

It doesn't but it accumulates cruft and since then new libraries emerge which you might be able to reuse instead of writing your own thing. Just as an example: Boost first appeared in 1999 so very likely at least early on no one used it.

Re: I'm forking Ladybird and stepping down as SerenityOS BDFL

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There’s very little WebKit / KHTML code left in Chrome.

There's very little NT 3.1 code left in Windows, but it's still clear how old that project is.

All unixes are descendants of original Unix from PDP-7 days. Why does it matter?

...ok the /bin /usr/bin nonsense still stays after decades, maybe you have a point

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