https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40512752
If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO (nytimes.com)
2024-05-29 (94 comments)
If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO
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Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow This is extremely rude and downright uncomfortable to read on a forum where people are supposed to be curious. Who tf do you think you are?
There’s a proverb (I can’t remember where I read it now) that goes something like, “what comes in through the front gate isn’t the family jewels.” Seems appropriate here. There are no short cuts to building insight and and intuition.
Indeed, but a bigger gates takes more effecient machinary for the jewel production in the back.
You could use the same proverb to dismiss the effects of Gutenbergs printing press.
And also, now when you respond again: can you elaborate on why you feel it is necessary to urge people to boycott a startup, because they use a technique that you currently are not familiar with? I see that you have earned your PhD and I would not expect this kind of behavior from a person who has credentials like you.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you give a specific example? I’m curious if it was useful because of the AI’s skills, or perhaps it was the conversation itself that helped, like in rubber duck debugging[1] or journaling. In any case, interested to hear more details. [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
I find ChatGPT incredibly useful to learn the vocabulary of an unfamiliar area. Often basic information in the area I know very little about can be found easily once you know the right keywords. Even if ChatGPT gets something wrong, it does pattern matching well enough to tell me something like "yes, there is a well-known concept that matches your vague noob description, it is called X". It works well in CS where I h…
That is CS though; I’m not sure that would work with business advice, where problems can be less tangible or there can be no single or verifiable solution (nor library/algorithm). Unless this approach also helps in the context of business advice?
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Probably in large part because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you. You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way.
That's a good point, but I think it's important to critically analyze any information you find online. Anything I read online might be bullshit, and yet I've learned a lot from internet. And many other people have as well. I personally see ChatGPT as a better and faster search engine. If I need something basic, it's often on point and almost instant. If I need intricate advanced details about a niche topic, yes, it c…
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
This reads like a comment from a person who has not tried to integrate LLMs into various workflows. Have you tried making and LLM draft a study plan for you? Kickstarting learning of a new area? Have you tried making an LLM correct your "homework" for your studies? When you try to learn a new language? Curiosity is about not being categorical - "It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII." is extremely categorical and thu…
> This reads like a comment from a person who has not tried to integrate LLMs into various workflows This reads like a comment from a person who makes the discussion about the other person. > Curiosity is about not being categorical - "It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII." is extremely categorical and thus, anti-curiosity. You could say the exact same thing about someone criticizing regular Stack Overflow copy-past…
The root for this is a comment that urges to boycott some persons startup because they express that they were thankful for the advice they get from LLMs (a PhD in physics, that is).
Yes, I find that commentary extremely inappropriate. And yes, I am defending my stance in the sub-threads.
But tell me: you say that my critique of a reductionist categorical view on the use of LLMs (it is merely stack overflow...) is catagorical itself? Can you please elaborate on that.
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#126Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.
I’m not doubting that you have found it helpful. I just wish people would be more judicious than making up numbers like “10x”. Everything can’t be “10x”.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Additionally, I think it's good to remember that among the people most threatened by this future, it's those who write for a living. Journalists, script writers and lawyers, essentially. An anecdote: I live in a non-english-speaking country. Most people in academic fields can speak and write English, but not as good as a native speaker. It's a common practice here before submitting an essay, you send it to a profes…
My wife uses chatgpt for this. The only problem is the output might be better English and less grammar mistakes but it reads downright cringy to a native English speaker. I think it’s easily identifiable as being passed through an LLM too by anyone familiar with the usage.
Has she tried specifying the kind of English she wants? I find for translation, even just saying something like this gets good results: "Please translate this so it sounds like a native speaker with an above-average vocabulary who is writing a business email to a colleague with whom she has a longstanding professional relationship. Do not make it sound too stilted or formal."
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#128It's more likely that people in all types of jobs are leveraging AI as tool, to do more/do things better.
Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Additionally, I think it's good to remember that among the people most threatened by this future, it's those who write for a living. Journalists, script writers and lawyers, essentially. An anecdote: I live in a non-english-speaking country. Most people in academic fields can speak and write English, but not as good as a native speaker. It's a common practice here before submitting an essay, you send it to a profes…
My wife uses chatgpt for this. The only problem is the output might be better English and less grammar mistakes but it reads downright cringy to a native English speaker. I think it’s easily identifiable as being passed through an LLM too by anyone familiar with the usage.
The real question is "is it good enough for the job"?
The broken english of original was clearly not enough, but a bit cringy alas correct may do the job fine and just like that another whole category of work is gone and same number of editors have to compete in ever shrinking market.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Additionally, I think it's good to remember that among the people most threatened by this future, it's those who write for a living. Journalists, script writers and lawyers, essentially. An anecdote: I live in a non-english-speaking country. Most people in academic fields can speak and write English, but not as good as a native speaker. It's a common practice here before submitting an essay, you send it to a profes…
How is this different from grammarly, that has been around for many years? This was a middleman job anyway, so it was just waiting to be removed, like travel agents.
This is a nit-pick, but:
Travel agents are still around, but they’re not nearly as common as they used to be.
They are absolutely fantastic to have around when you want to discuss rather than plan the rote particulars of, for example, a “we saved for this one” vacation. A good travel agent has near-direct booking access to $GDS, has relationships, and vets and cross checks everything with a level of detail and experience that you really only get by doing it every day.
It has become something akin to the concierge industry.