Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

Post by WalterBright » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 12:00 AM UTC

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #66

jjmarr wrote: post #49

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A common good like security should be socialized because the alternative is multiple independent groups enforcing property rights, and when they start to conflict, you get a civil war won by the person who spent the most on security. The idea that police are inherently corrupt because they developed from paid security forces ignores that the very process of development is what enshrined the rule of law over power.

I don't disagree that security should be a socialized good, it's a good idea. That doesn't change the fact that police in the United States and elsewhere were formed in the basis of law not to protect people but to protect property. Even today courts have ruled that police are under no obligation to protect civilians from direct, inevitable harm. They are not there to protect you, they are there to protect "the peace…

Post by WalterBright » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 12:04 AM UTC

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google234123 wrote: post #75

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This is a regressive and defeatist attitude. We actually don't have to tolerate this in a society- those engaging in it should be punished and forcibly removed if they aren't able to change.

Evidence has shown that punitive penalties for crime do not affect crime rates.

Post by cwmma » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 12:06 AM UTC

google234123 wrote: post #75

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There is an amount of theft that apple is OK with because preventing it would hurt sales and occasional theift of product they can easily brick is certainly under that limit, plus there is likelyreporting biases, as it's likely you've seen videos of it happening but when there are arrests or recoverys you havn't seen those reports.

This is a regressive and defeatist attitude. We actually don't have to tolerate this in a society- those engaging in it should be punished and forcibly removed if they aren't able to change.

Post by WalterBright » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 12:12 AM UTC

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What do you think Slave Patrols were...? Security to enforce private property. Slaves were property. Runaway slaves might be property that stole itself, effectively, but it's the same thing. And also, the slave patrol link has much stronger ties in the southern states where slavery was more prominent. That's not to say it didn't happen in the north, of course it did, but it happened more in the south, the south's eco…

Post by Kuinox » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 12:15 AM UTC

ipsum2 wrote: post #105

The thieves would've gotten away with it if they had iPhones. They would receive notification saying an airtag was traveling with them.