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Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by ramon156 »

chrisjj wrote: post #51
NeutralForest wrote: post #37

I feel like we have this discussion every month, one way or another. People use Discord because it's useful and they like the experience. Discourse is nice for purely written communication but if you want to setup a call, direct message and, more importantly, write bots (presentation, topic organization, news, modding, now even AI Q&A); people will fall back to Discord. Pointing at Discourse when it doesn't have the…

> People use Discord because it's useful and they like the experience. Let's fix that. Discord-using people use Discord because it's useful to them and they like the experience.

If I'm honest, those say the exact same thing to me, and doesn't de-power the argument

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by [deleted] »

beretguy wrote: post #2

The rest of the quote: > Stop using Discord for anything else than just chatting. Stop dumping knowledge into a black hole. Use forums. Use the open web. Future nerds will thank you.

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Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by joenot443 »

Springtime wrote: post #54

Ultimately someone has to pay for things. Many communities have apparently decided they don't want to use even modern forum software and become a webmaster, along with avoiding the costs and time associated, or use someone else's existing forum (which may or may not suit their needs). The quite liberal free file attachment limits (25MB each), ease of communication and ironically the fact Discord is closed off in natu…

My sad realization is that in today’s nerd world, there just aren’t that many teenage webmasters. Unix and DNS and Apache just aren’t very sexy or fun to learn when the other cool kids are playing with LLMs and Flutter and WebGL. Obviously _we’d_ prefer if they learned to setup vBulletin and do it our way, but when Discord is free and all their friends are on it, it’s a tough sell to the other nerds.

It’s not a “kids these days” grumble, just an honest observation that some computing skills are slowly being lost generationally, and it’s hard to say that anyone’s really to blame.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by alimoeeny »

I think this is a big problem we are going to face soon. And I wish I had a solution for it. For example, recently I've been using Haxe + Heaps.io for a game I am working on. And unlike their docs on the web, which is out of date, their discord community is vibrant and VERY VERY helpful and friendly. Which is both heartwarming and sad. Sad because all of this knowledge and advice is hidden from the public web.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by bogwog »

lobsterthief wrote: post #30
Svip wrote: post #13

Where is the Wordpress.com (i.e. commercial hosting) for forums? I maintain a SMF forum that's lasted since 2000, but I get why most people aren't jumping into creating a new forum, because it's rather tedious compared to Discord. Hell, better ask instead; where is the Discord but for forums (real ones, not Discord)?

It’s called Discourse and it’s really great

I don't know what it is about Discourse, but I can never get into it. Maybe it's the UI? It feels like a disorganized mess to me.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #106
outime wrote: post #52

It will be as useful as other HN campaigns: stop using WhatsApp and use Signal, stop using Chrome and use Firefox, stop using Twitter and use this OSS alternative with 0.1% of the users, stop using Reddit, stop using Kubernetes, etc.

What's your alternative action? I tend to agree with you, but personally I've tried to stop pointing out problems without providing solutions; failing at something is better than preemptive surrender.

Surrender implies there’s something inherently wrong with these alternatives. Something a lot of people just don’t agree with. I agree with you that it’s helpful to be proactive, but the incumbents are there for a reason: at one point a large consensus agreed they were the best for doing X, whatever X might’ve been in that situation.

Maybe that’s changed. But a lot of folks don’t think so. Twitter is useful precisely due to its network effect. That’s why I’ll never move to mastodon. Doesn’t make sense for the reason that I use the tool.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by thatloststudent »

opensource4ever wrote: post #84
Springtime wrote: post #54

Ultimately someone has to pay for things. Many communities have apparently decided they don't want to use even modern forum software and become a webmaster, along with avoiding the costs and time associated, or use someone else's existing forum (which may or may not suit their needs). The quite liberal free file attachment limits (25MB each), ease of communication and ironically the fact Discord is closed off in natu…

matrix.org allows 100 mb attachment. It is federated, which means you can move your data to your server if you like later. There are many clients and server implementations now and it is e2ee.

More importantly, it is indexable by search engines (if you use view.matrix.org). But it's not as simple to use as discord quite yet. I say this as a self-hosted matrix user, but it's not quite as simple to call someone else (until element call becomes a thing) or use custom emojis, to show a few problems.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by ziddoap »

anymouse123456 wrote: post #70

This. "Join my Discord" is a 100% hard pass for me. Every time I've made an exception, the entire experience is a net-negative. Half the time, I can't even get authenticated and then once I'm in, everything is awful. The notifications, the constant chatter, the dozens of topics, the useless search, it shocks me that anyone over the age of 14 uses it at all. Add to all the broken basics, the fact that your data is now…

>it shocks me that anyone over the age of 14 uses it at all.

Really? I'm in my mid 30s and am in a couple servers with a bunch of 30-50 year olds. I don't know of any better platform to organize and play DnD with voice chat and screen sharing. It's also great for when I play larger online games with a group (e.g. World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy) as we have a guild server to organize absences, socialize while not raiding, etc.

If you have a suggestion for a better way to voice chat, screen share, drop in and out of conversations, etc. I'm all ears.

For what its worth, all of your complaints (except for search, which really does suck) are easily addressed.

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