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The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by adavies42 »

Create wrote: post #28
klez wrote: post #4

I'm happy that, finally, people are not shoving 'movie-os' in computer scenes anymore. The first time I saw real stuff in movies was in Antitrust, then in Tron: Legacy and finally here.

you never read the book, which has named the apple notebooks and some shareware software (product placements which are almost gone by now). The main character(s) explicitly saved up for the given machine (although the movie isn't accurate down to the model)

the books all had this odd habit of being very specific about brands--Lisbeth's favorite microwave pizza, her computers, i think even the names of the ikea furniture. idk if that's normal in swedish writing or if it was just larsson....

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by alanfalcon »

adorton wrote: post #75
pyre wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> interfaces for Jurassic Park Replace Jurassic Park with "Operation Swordfish" or "Hackers," and you might be on to something. Especially since the Jurassic Park interface was a real program that actually existed.

Hackers is funny, but I watched it recently and was surprised at the realistic touches. In one scene, a character is showing off his "hacking" books - which included the dragon book, and a Unix book I believe is real.

The best part about Hackers is that they hired Emmanuel Goldstein to serve as a consultant to get the technical details right... and he decided it would be fun to completely troll the movie producers, giving us what we got.

Hackers is an absolutely fantastic and hillarious movie once you're watching it with that in mind. Especially since Cereal Killer is either named after the 2600 editor or else just uses his name in jest when he says "uh, this isn't Woodshop?"

I used to listen to the movie on repeat all day while restoring compromised accounts at Blizzard; it kept me going when my eyes wanted to go cross and my brain wanted to shut down from looking at WoW's "the Matrix" all day tracking stolen virtual goods.

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by alanfalcon »

pyre wrote: post #104
blhack wrote: post #93

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THANK YOU This movie gets so much completely unnecessary hatred. Yeah, it's a joke, but there is plenty of little nods to "real" culture in there. To me it has always been pretty obvious that it was supposed to be silly, but that the people making it knew what they were doing. I'm pretty sure most of the books from that scene were actually real books.

When I mentioned "Hackers," I was thinking more of the 3D UI they were navigating to search for files on the mainframe.

It's my life's ambition to one day use a file system as pretty and pointless as that one. Barring that, I may just create one for use in my "hacker" puzzle game for iOS that has no actual relation to real hacking (as is the case most "hacker" themed games).

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by adavies42 »

cantankerous wrote: post #96
arethuza wrote: post #65

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I think the capitalisation and the "4.0.1" was a hint that it's really a pun on SunOS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunOS

I feel like a complete putz for not getting the Sun-Solaris relation until RIGHT NOW.

next up: SUN stands for "Stanford University Networks" (which also explains why their original ticker symbol was SUNW)

solaris is still internally called sunos (and the versioning is the same as the stupid java one, solaris 11 is really sunos 5.11)

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by shanemhansen »

fwdbureau wrote: post #89
mibbitier wrote: post #20

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Thing is, if you're "good" at something, and a movie gets it wrong, it can ruin the movie for you. My pet hate is people playing the piano, but playing the wrong notes (While the soundtrack is playing something different).

It's even worse than this. When everytime you're "good" at something, you notice movies get it wrong, after some point you start to wonder, maybe they also get it wrong for all the things you're not good at, you just don't notice it. So basically, it could be that movies get everything wrong.

The most annoying thing for me is hearing reporters talk about science or computers. By the time they get done "summarizing" a research result it bears only the faintest resemblance to reality, and often has been construed to mean the very opposite of the original published paper.

Then I realize that these same people report the business and political news, and realized that I probably don't have a clue what's actually going on in the world.

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by mikecane »

jlgreco wrote: post #67
mikecane wrote: post #55

Let me just say that after seeing the original Swedish movie and then reading the book, I was crushed to learn there was no hacker tool called "asphyxia" in the book.

There is in the English translation of The Girl Who Played With Fire.

Oh! I haven't gotten that far yet. Thanks for the tip.

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by rbanffy »

polemic wrote: post #114
rbanffy wrote: post #110

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> Hackers are not optimizing for performance or readability. Speak for yourself ;-)

I'm not a hacker, so I can't. FYI I'm referring to 'trying to break into a system, possibility illegally, with time pressure, hackers', rather than HackerNews hackers. Which I thought was reasonably obvious from the context. If you're actually trying to crack a system, you're generally trying a lot of different things very rapidly. Tweaking performance and nicely formatting code you're going to immediately discard is…

Sorry if I look harsh, but this is not the meaning of "hacker" I like to see promoted.

On the movie, also, the girl was not trying to crack into a computer - she seemingly had full MySQL console access.

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by DanBC »

oliciv wrote: post #19
wpietri wrote: post #17

Please nobody let Hollywood see this blog. Somebody's going to say, "Man, we went to all that trouble to make it look realistic. But it doesn't work. Fuck it. Bring back the guy who did the interfaces for Jurassic Park. And the guy who writes Wesley Crusher's dialog." --- Update: I love that my comment mocking excess nitpicking now has triggered triple-redundant nitpicking.

This one? http://www.siliconbunny.com/fsn-the-irix-3d-file-system-tool...

There are a few 3d user interfaces.

(http://nooface.net/3dui.shtml)

It's kind of a shame that VRML and these interfaces were being developed when hardware wasn't powerful enough and when networking wasn't fast enough.

With good displays, and smart people working on them, and much nicer hardware, I think these techs could provide interesting results.

Re: The girl with the ANSI tattoo

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Post by atesti »

idleloops wrote: post #51

Great article. My pet peeves in shows/movies, are normally around the fact that it takes more than a few seconds to do anything useful on a computer. And yet on film even idiots seem to command their gadgetry with aplomb. They should show failed password attempts. Computer lock ups. Anti-virus software blocking any meaningful use of the computer. Frustration of users as they are prevented from booting due to system u…

>Anti-virus software blocking any meaningful use of the computer

Don't wish for that! In the Hulk 2008 movie, you can see Norton Antivirus scanning the computer right before he uses it.

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