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I'm curious exactly what this means. I mean, the plane will still be broadcasting ADS-B info of some sort, right? If it's an empty registration number, well, to quote The Simpsons, "We'll look for the house with no numbers."
I have to ask: if we think privacy is a right, then why does flying in a private jet mean you give up that right?
Airspace above the US is nationalized. It's managed by the government, which is funded by taxpayers. So they have a right to know who is doing what using that airspace.
Flying secretly (or at all) is not a Constitutionally protected activity so there's nothing inherently wrong with regulating it and denying something like this.
Either one of these is a good enough reason not to allow this type of thing in my opinion.
I have to ask: if we think privacy is a right, then why does flying in a private jet mean you give up that right?
I have to ask: if we think privacy is a right, then why does flying in a private jet mean you give up that right?
A couple spring to mind, none of which is specific to private jets. Airspace above the US is nationalized. It's managed by the government, which is funded by taxpayers. So they have a right to know who is doing what using that airspace. Flying secretly (or at all) is not a Constitutionally protected activity so there's nothing inherently wrong with regulating it and denying something like this. Either one of these is…
You can use this reasoning to disclose almost anything, including online real-id schemes, public license plate info, etc.
I have to ask: if we think privacy is a right, then why does flying in a private jet mean you give up that right?
I have to ask: if we think privacy is a right, then why does flying in a private jet mean you give up that right?
A couple spring to mind, none of which is specific to private jets. Airspace above the US is nationalized. It's managed by the government, which is funded by taxpayers. So they have a right to know who is doing what using that airspace. Flying secretly (or at all) is not a Constitutionally protected activity so there's nothing inherently wrong with regulating it and denying something like this. Either one of these is…
That seems like an absolute argument against any kind of right to privacy.
So you'd equally have no concern at all if there was a publicly searchable registry of every flight that every passenger was taking on a commercial carrier?
The roads are managed by government and funded by taxpayers: should there be a publicly searchable record of every vehicle movement on the roads as well?
Anonymizing aircraft registration was, for the most part, already possible. I first figured this out when I started playing with ADSB reception many years ago before it became the trivial effort it is today. The first plane that I happened to receive just happened to be a learjet registered to "Bank of Utah" or something similarly obtuse. It took all of about 30 seconds to figure out this was Steve Jobs' plane; it ha…
This isn't to do with aircraft registration: it's to do with the fixed airframe identifier in the Mode-S data. By default, a single airframe (plane) will also squawk the same identifier on Mode-S, which can be picked up by passive receivers owned by the general public.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
A couple spring to mind, none of which is specific to private jets. Airspace above the US is nationalized. It's managed by the government, which is funded by taxpayers. So they have a right to know who is doing what using that airspace. Flying secretly (or at all) is not a Constitutionally protected activity so there's nothing inherently wrong with regulating it and denying something like this. Either one of these is…
> Airspace above the US is nationalized. It's managed by the government, which is funded by taxpayers. So they have a right to know who is doing what using that airspace. Flying secretly (or at all) is not a Constitutionally protected activity so there's nothing inherently wrong with regulating it and denying something like this. That seems like an absolute argument against any kind of right to privacy. So you'd equa…
> So you'd equally have no concern at all if there was a publicly searchable registry of every flight that every passenger was taking on a commercial carrier?
There is a searchable registry of every flight already. The passenger thing is something you added that I never brought up.
> The roads are managed by government and funded by taxpayers: should there be a publicly searchable record of every vehicle movement on the roads as well?
Well the closest thing to an aircraft transponder is a license plate, and it's pretty well established case law that you have no right to obscure your license plate and that you have no right to privacy with regard to that license plate being recorded, being run by the police without cause or suspicion, etc. The fact that there isn't a publicly searchable record of automobile movements is simply because automobile movement isn't as strictly controlled as aircraft movement. If cars needed transponders in them and you needed a controller to give you permission to take an exit we'd have basically the same system for cars.