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Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by lez »

al_borland wrote: post #62
kevinak wrote: post #36

The problem with BlueSky is that they built something specific for Twitter like experiences. Nostr is much better positioned to take on these large platforms IMO. You can build pretty much any social experience on it. Here's a selection of things folks have built on top of the protocol: https://www.nostrapps.com

This could also be seen as a weakness. The lack of focus means fragmentation. Fragmentation means confusion. Users tend to want/need to know what to use and where to go. Telling someone, "go get an email account," will leave them asking more questions or giving up. It's a homework assignment for research. Telling someone, "go get a gmail account," is an actionable thing they can do. We made it there with email, but t…

Check primal.net to find that app you are talking about.

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by tptacek »

Use social media direct messages to establish a connection on a secure messenger designed for direct messaging, and for nothing else. When people try to initiate conversations with you in DMs, have a ready answer to pivot the conversation elsewhere.

Social platforms like BlueSky have radically different design constraints than direct messaging applications. The implications range from security to social dynamics to legal concerns.

Social DMs are bad. Try not to use them!

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by numpad0 »

bitwize wrote: post #16
DataDive wrote: post #11

Zawinski's Law: > Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can. I think nowadays we can substitute email with chat/DM.

Nowadays it's chat, photos/videos, and online purchases thus forming an all-in-one app. Not quite popular here in the West, though that's Elon's eventual goal with X. But think WeChat in China.

There is the western superapp, it's called Google Search.

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by Retr0id »

srameshc wrote: post #80

I have a question that is not relevant to this post. Has anyone tried to implement the Bluesky federated protocol?

Yeah, I wrote my own PDS from scratch[0], that was capable of federating with the sandbox network.

Now that federation is enabled in the public network, I've been working on a slightly more production-ready rewrite[1], although it's not yet in a usable state (haven't had much time to work on it lately)

[0] https://github.com/DavidBuchanan314/picopds

[1] https://github.com/DavidBuchanan314/millipds

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by DaSHacka »

mgraczyk wrote: post #97
troupo wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it decentralized? It's running from and through Facebook servers.

Facebook cannot read your messages, so it is more decentralized than a system that stores messages in plaintext (or stores the decryption keys).

Seems like its simply a more private option

it being encrypted but routed through a single companies servers means its just as centralized as if it were unencrypted though

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by seanvelasco »

pipeline_peak wrote: post #82

Wake me up when the non tech people are using it.

i haven't seen tech people, save for the bsky devs. in my time building a client for it (as a side project), i observed a healthy population of journalists, furries, and people who have bad political takes.

when openai launched gpt-4o and google had its i/o, the two events didn't make a dent in the bsky trends. what did make a big dent was eurovision. that says a lot about the population of tech people.

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by mgraczyk »

DaSHacka wrote: post #125
mgraczyk wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook cannot read your messages, so it is more decentralized than a system that stores messages in plaintext (or stores the decryption keys).

Seems like its simply a more private option it being encrypted but routed through a single companies servers means its just as centralized as if it were unencrypted though

That depends on your definition of decentralization. Because of the way most people set up their apps, almost all Matrix users and ~all Signal users are using a centralized app under this definition.

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by seanvelasco »

leftcenterright wrote: post #10

slightly off-topic but did anyone find a way to still use Twitter/X using Firefox (without disabling strict tracking protection of course)?

wasn't this fixed a few days ago? https://x.com/FirefoxSupport/status/1791459697297608943

firefox is my default browser, and i have the enhanced tracking protection to strict.

Re: Bluesky adds direct messages

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Post by alternatex »

mgraczyk wrote: post #97
troupo wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it decentralized? It's running from and through Facebook servers.

Facebook cannot read your messages, so it is more decentralized than a system that stores messages in plaintext (or stores the decryption keys).

That's not what decentralized means though. This whole comment thread is unclear on whether decentralization or encryption is what's desired.
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