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One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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I wonder if there’s data to assert what’s more dangerous in the long term: Stay absolutely seated and fastened for the whole flight; VS. Stay absolutely seated and fastened for the whole flight with a few breaks to walk around and stretch your legs. PS: Yes, sitting without fastening your seatbelt is just plain stupid.

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Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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I haven’t experienced much turbulence in maybe 15 years, whereas I remember in the 90s I experienced tons of turbulence in almost every flight. I am not sure if this is something modern airliners have been designed to deal with or avoid, or not. Has anyone else experienced this or is my memory just faulty?

Seems relatively constant according to this graph: https://icao.usmission.gov/air-carrier-turbulence-related-in...

that seems to be just total number of incidents, not corrected for increased air traffic over the last 30 years

Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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>toxic masculinity Would love an explanation of how you got here

I guess because it’s a snobby way of saying “they weren’t pussies about it”

You've guessed wrong.

The etymology is latin for "small (pussilus) spirit/courage (animus)" meaning "faint of heart".

Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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post #26

I haven’t experienced much turbulence in maybe 15 years, whereas I remember in the 90s I experienced tons of turbulence in almost every flight. I am not sure if this is something modern airliners have been designed to deal with or avoid, or not. Has anyone else experienced this or is my memory just faulty?

Nah, I remember this as well. I seem to recall many flights having bags in the seat pockets in case you had to throw up.

Luckily with better predictive modeling most flights can avoid these rough patches now. There’s even some apps you can download to see the turbulence forecasts and pilot report maps.

Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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post #26

I haven’t experienced much turbulence in maybe 15 years, whereas I remember in the 90s I experienced tons of turbulence in almost every flight. I am not sure if this is something modern airliners have been designed to deal with or avoid, or not. Has anyone else experienced this or is my memory just faulty?

One thing that I experienced is that planes before flew at lower altitude, so I believe there was more turbulence overall.

Also I remember in the late 80s going right through a storm while in mid flight during a long flight. That hasn't happened to me in the last 15 years. And I flight around 8 times a year.

Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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post #71

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Yup... I still don't understand why people decide to not put on their seatbelt while being seated. It's not like you have a lot more freedom of movement without the seatbelt? And it might just save your life in events like this one.

I've never seen turbulence like this. And until fairly recently I didn't know it was really possible. So it's a bit like "why don't people wear a welding mask while cooking?" It was never even a risk that I had considered before.

Guessing you are on the younger side. People my age know to wear the seat belt due to watching coverage of aloha flight 243 in 1988.

Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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> There's a reason why you're advised to keep your seatbelt fastened when seated. I simply don't understand some cabins that have cocktail bars in them - are you absolutely crazy? No, just not pusillanimous about it, given the odds.

> No, just not pusillanimous about it, given the odds. Fascinating; an exemplar of both toxic masculinity and grandiloquence in a single word.

You keep using this term "toxic masculinity". I don't think it means what you think it means.

Or perhaps you also think only men are brave enough to go to airplane bars (or to untie their belt or stand from their seat during a flight even when it's not "absolutely necessary"?)

Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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I recently flew ANA and they advise all passengers to keep their seatbelts on at all times when seated. It seems like simple advice. I do the same thing when I'm driving. I don't find it uncomfortable in the slightest, even sleeping. Maybe others have a different experience, but turbulence isn't that rare. I've had serious turbulence on many flights. Probably the worst was final approach / landing in Frankfurt with p…

I've never been on any airplane where they didn't say you have to keep your seatbelt fastened at all times when seated.

I've been flying for a long time. It's only in the last decade that I've noticed the specific language of "keep your seatbelt fastened even if the light turns off". It's always been a "soft" suggestion, but it's becoming stronger, and repeated. The ANA flight crew in particular were quite adamant about it.

This may just be me becoming more aware of it, but, if so, I'm also becoming more aware of more passengers actually heeding the advice. I remember, not that long ago, most people removing their seatbelts as soon as the light went out. Not so common now.

Re: One dead as London-Singapore flight hit by turbulence

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post #71

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Yup... I still don't understand why people decide to not put on their seatbelt while being seated. It's not like you have a lot more freedom of movement without the seatbelt? And it might just save your life in events like this one.

I've never seen turbulence like this. And until fairly recently I didn't know it was really possible. So it's a bit like "why don't people wear a welding mask while cooking?" It was never even a risk that I had considered before.

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