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How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

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Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

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I solved this Google problem by paying someone else for search. I have switched to kagi.com, a so-called, "paid, ad-free search engine". I have not yet found one drawback to using it. Unlike previous attempts to switch from Google, I have not ever felt like I was getting substandard answers or thought of switching back. It's been months. And, it is lovely. The lack of ads and of it having no manipulative motivation m…

I tried Kagi for a while and found it to be excellent. I settled on Perplexity for my own use however.

I still use Duck Duck Go, Google, and Bing-ChatGPT. Not sure why, but sometimes I like variety.

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

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I keep thinking of a hierarchical invite model for these sorts of problems. I'd be very curious if someone could give a second opinion on this idea. The mechanism: Everyone has to be invited by someone, so it all traces back to the creator. The creator knows they themselves are legit, but let's say someone online asked for an invite and bad inputs keep coming from somewhere down that branch of the invite tree. Either…

This is the traditional way societies enforce totalitarianism. You're not allowed to sleep outside, because your landlord will punish you. He has to, because if he doesn't, the city will punish him. It has to, because if it doesn't, the state will punish it. Maybe totalitarianism is what you want for search engine moderation. But it does feel a bit messed up when you frame it like I just did. Another thing that happe…

I for one want totalitarianism in search. Post one spam blog and that’s it, it’s over for life.

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

#124

I solved this Google problem by paying someone else for search. I have switched to kagi.com, a so-called, "paid, ad-free search engine". I have not yet found one drawback to using it. Unlike previous attempts to switch from Google, I have not ever felt like I was getting substandard answers or thought of switching back. It's been months. And, it is lovely. The lack of ads and of it having no manipulative motivation m…

people around me calling me crazy/dumb for paying kagi but they don't realize how shitty google become.

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

#125

I want to make my own search engine, one day, with my own crawler. There is an SEO-proof way to determine what the ranking of a site should be - penalise it for each advertisement, penalise further for delivering different content to the crawler[1], allow logged-in users to down-rank a site, etc. Basically, a site starts off with a perfect score, then gets penalised for each violation, for each dark-pattern, for each…

I used to play with this, a long time ago. I set up Apache Nutch on my home Linux Desktop system to crawl about 20 of my favorite and most useful sites. That was fun, and I was playing with some knowledge management ideas.

If I try that again, I would probably use a Hetzner server and not run it at home. I would probably still stick with spidering only about 20 web sites.

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep thinking of a hierarchical invite model for these sorts of problems. I'd be very curious if someone could give a second opinion on this idea. The mechanism: Everyone has to be invited by someone, so it all traces back to the creator. The creator knows they themselves are legit, but let's say someone online asked for an invite and bad inputs keep coming from somewhere down that branch of the invite tree. Either…

This is the traditional way societies enforce totalitarianism. You're not allowed to sleep outside, because your landlord will punish you. He has to, because if he doesn't, the city will punish him. It has to, because if it doesn't, the state will punish it. Maybe totalitarianism is what you want for search engine moderation. But it does feel a bit messed up when you frame it like I just did. Another thing that happe…

Isn't that what's happening to websites today? Everyone jostling for a higher position in the ranking to stay afloat on advertisement returns, and dancing to the advertisers' tune or they'll get kicked out of the system

I'm also not sure I agree that a system with this amount of leeway (anyone can invite you onto the system and it asks nothing of who you are) is comparable to a system where your landlord gets to say how you must behave in frivolous detail. All it wants from you is to not promote spam. Furthermore, physically moving to another landlord, who in such a scenario would want to get a reference, is a whole other ordeal compared going online and asking one of any number of people you're close to for a code that takes them 5 seconds to generate

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

#127

I solved this Google problem by paying someone else for search. I have switched to kagi.com, a so-called, "paid, ad-free search engine". I have not yet found one drawback to using it. Unlike previous attempts to switch from Google, I have not ever felt like I was getting substandard answers or thought of switching back. It's been months. And, it is lovely. The lack of ads and of it having no manipulative motivation m…

people around me calling me crazy/dumb for paying kagi but they don't realize how shitty google become.

A lot of people get really interested when I mention you can block Pinterest and Quora from all search results.

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

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post #116

I solved this Google problem by paying someone else for search. I have switched to kagi.com, a so-called, "paid, ad-free search engine". I have not yet found one drawback to using it. Unlike previous attempts to switch from Google, I have not ever felt like I was getting substandard answers or thought of switching back. It's been months. And, it is lovely. The lack of ads and of it having no manipulative motivation m…

Same, it's crazy how easy of a W paying for Kagi is. For a lot of the privacy focused "Google alternatives" you're typically getting privacy in exchange for worse results but on Kagi it's the opposite. They have the !g bang like DuckDuckGo but unlike DDG I've never reached for it. I learned really quick that if Kagi had bad results that Google had even worse ones.

> it's crazy how easy of a W paying for Kagi is.

I have low willingness to setup an account and high suspicion of subscriptions. But Kagi was promising hearing protection for Google's ceaseless jackhammering.

My fingers seemed to setup an account on their own and then I couldn't send Kagi money fast enough. My Google inflicted migraine has been dialed down to 3 or 4.

The downside to having my senses back is that Microsoft's repulsive creepiness is suddenly everywhere. I can't keep MS CP+ and gropey Edge out of my personal desktop space. As if their passive-aggressive Azure/360 wasn't enough abuse.

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

#129

I want to make my own search engine, one day, with my own crawler. There is an SEO-proof way to determine what the ranking of a site should be - penalise it for each advertisement, penalise further for delivering different content to the crawler[1], allow logged-in users to down-rank a site, etc. Basically, a site starts off with a perfect score, then gets penalised for each violation, for each dark-pattern, for each…

If you allow logged-in users to down-rank a site, you already did the hardest part, which is to differentiate bots and spammers from real users.

From there, you can easily add positive feedback as well, IMO.

But the first part is really hard. Maybe it needs to piggyback on some centralized government emitted number, which is sad, but maybe the only solution.

I'd love some biometric hash, or similar, but those decentralized IDs have been a promisse for years and have yet to catch on, for whatever reason.

Re: How I Made Google's "Web" View My Default Search

#130

I solved this Google problem by paying someone else for search. I have switched to kagi.com, a so-called, "paid, ad-free search engine". I have not yet found one drawback to using it. Unlike previous attempts to switch from Google, I have not ever felt like I was getting substandard answers or thought of switching back. It's been months. And, it is lovely. The lack of ads and of it having no manipulative motivation m…

90% of my googling has been replaced by simply asking ChatGPT questions
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