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Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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Er, no… that’s literally just the truth. Science is not done as a public debate. That’s politics. Science doesn’t “vote.”

Actually, peer review journals are public debate. The much-applauded "consensus" is essentially voting. If you follow the money you will quickly see the connection between science and politics, both internally and with the public at large.

Peer review. Those words mean something, your bias is showing

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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You may have oral allergy syndrome (OAS), which is similar to food allergy but not as severe. It doesn't typically lead to anaphylaxis. It is caused by pollen allergy, where the food has a protein similar to one that's in the pollen you're allergic to. This is called "cross-reactivity". Personally I have OAS with raw carrots, which is likely cross-reactive from my birch pollen allergy. Raw carrots make my throat mild…

Kiwis are also linked to latex allergy. I have friend who has latex and kiwi allergies.

Leading to many of the NZ fetish scene jokes :)

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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Ivermectin does nothing. Linking to a site that uses fraudulent research in order to prove an incorrect point does not help your position. There were places in the world that widely distributed Ivermectin as an experimental treatment (such as Brazil) whose health agencies have now, after the fact, said that Ivermectin does not help. You are peddling fraud.

Name one fraudulent paper on that page. I know you didn't look at them. Better yet, give me 3, since you are so convinced it's all fraud.

I will not engage with you further and simply refer you to [1], which includes some of the studies used in your fraudulent website. And the data has only gotten more damning since 2021.

[1] https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-y...

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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huh, every time I eat a kiwi my lips get itchy. I just googled and it doesn’t look like it contains urushiol, but it does contain an allergen called “actinidin”. This thread made me realize I’m allergic to kiwi’s…

You may have oral allergy syndrome (OAS), which is similar to food allergy but not as severe. It doesn't typically lead to anaphylaxis. It is caused by pollen allergy, where the food has a protein similar to one that's in the pollen you're allergic to. This is called "cross-reactivity". Personally I have OAS with raw carrots, which is likely cross-reactive from my birch pollen allergy. Raw carrots make my throat mild…

Hey! I'm in the same boat with raw carrots, as well as melons like cantaloupe and watermelon. Annoying because I love them all.

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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> "You can have free speech as long as you only speak quietly in your own closet." The power to curate information or "amplify" it as you say is practically very hard to distinguish from censorship when you choose to show only things you agree with, or show only the worst straw men for the other side. No platform owes you the right to amplify nonsense. The government can’t make you stop, but individual platforms or i…

>No platform owes you the right to amplify nonsense. The government can’t make you stop, but individual platforms or individuals themselves? They’re free to do whatever, just like you. Don’t like it? Start a Truth Social and go yell at your adoring fans all you want. Governments of the world, including the US government, have repeatedly been shown to order these "private" platforms around. So this argument is cooked.…

> You should ask yourself why conspiracy theories make more sense to people than the truth

While conspiracy theorists believe this to be the case, and they are people, they're a slightly-vocal minority, and thus it'd be disingenuous to represent what conspiracy theorists think as what "people" think, unless you clarify that you're using the term "people" to refer to 1+ persons, not any indicative majority.

As you and I both said upthread: there will always be greater than zero pseudoscience conspiracy theorists who view literally anything as confirmation of the conspiracy theory.

>> I haven't seen anyone saying we can make pseudoscience go away forever.

> You must not have been looking. There are government and media officials coming out against "mis-, dis-, and mal-information" on a constant basis.*

This is not evidence that they, or any significant amount of people, have said they can make conspiracy theories and pseudoscience go away forever. There's nothing wrong with "coming out against" disinformation.

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

#126

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huh, every time I eat a kiwi my lips get itchy. I just googled and it doesn’t look like it contains urushiol, but it does contain an allergen called “actinidin”. This thread made me realize I’m allergic to kiwi’s…

You may have oral allergy syndrome (OAS), which is similar to food allergy but not as severe. It doesn't typically lead to anaphylaxis. It is caused by pollen allergy, where the food has a protein similar to one that's in the pollen you're allergic to. This is called "cross-reactivity". Personally I have OAS with raw carrots, which is likely cross-reactive from my birch pollen allergy. Raw carrots make my throat mild…

Is this why I sometimes get little tiny pustules on my gums after eating certain foods? I have no idea which foods cause this still. Sometimes in happens with sushi

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

huh, every time I eat a kiwi my lips get itchy. I just googled and it doesn’t look like it contains urushiol, but it does contain an allergen called “actinidin”. This thread made me realize I’m allergic to kiwi’s…

You may have oral allergy syndrome (OAS), which is similar to food allergy but not as severe. It doesn't typically lead to anaphylaxis. It is caused by pollen allergy, where the food has a protein similar to one that's in the pollen you're allergic to. This is called "cross-reactivity". Personally I have OAS with raw carrots, which is likely cross-reactive from my birch pollen allergy. Raw carrots make my throat mild…

I have OAS/mild latex allergy and cantaloupe/honeydew are pretty terrible, and avocado was a bit bad too (worse when paired with acid e.g. guac)

My wife eats a lot of avocado being from south america and that part went away, and the latex allergy seems to have reduced as well.

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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I have read that the urushiol is also present in the skin of the mango fruit. I don’t know if those who consume a lot of mangoes or have grown up with mango trees around them are immune to poison oak’s urushiol(arguably much more concentrated) as its present in stems, saps, leaves, skin more than the flesh..but they likely have more tolerance. Also..in India, we don’t burn mango leaves or branches as it increases res…

I do remember being told to be careful of the mango sap near where the stem attaches and to wash and cut if off before eating, never got any rashes though. Have eaten tons of mangoes directly from the fruit, and wasn’t washed every time.

Am curious now if I’m brave enough to test poison oak immunity. Probably not..

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may have oral allergy syndrome (OAS), which is similar to food allergy but not as severe. It doesn't typically lead to anaphylaxis. It is caused by pollen allergy, where the food has a protein similar to one that's in the pollen you're allergic to. This is called "cross-reactivity". Personally I have OAS with raw carrots, which is likely cross-reactive from my birch pollen allergy. Raw carrots make my throat mild…

Hey! I'm in the same boat with raw carrots, as well as melons like cantaloupe and watermelon. Annoying because I love them all.

Well, you might consider allergy shots for hay fever, that just might fix the OAS too!

Re: I couldn't escape poison oak, so I started eating it

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You don't need to eat it. A well-known phenomenon in the US military is that some of the sites for Basic Training of new recruits have prodigious quantities of poison oak/ivy/sumac as the local flora. As consequence of the military training, you are rolling around in those plants daily. Initially, a large percentage of people have the usual reaction but it quickly disappears after a few weeks and it never happens aga…

About a half dozen times or more being exposed led to worse and worse reactions. It was awful. I’ve also never heard from others that your body gets used to it. I’ve always heard it gets worse every time, which was my experience. Obviously anecdata.

Yeah anytime I've gotten poison oak, it spreads and just will not go away without antihistamines - I doubt I could ever grow tolerant to it.
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