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'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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I think it's more lame to disregard this ideology. What if Germany had the nuke first? "oh well, at least we held to our morals" There's this ideal human sociology, and then there's the reality of what we really are. It takes a unique person to accept it, and do the wrong thing for the right reason, and also be able to steer things in the eventual right direction.

interesting example because we defeated Germany without nukes...

We as Soviet Russia ? The lost more than 20 million.people to beat the Nazis without that sacrifice Europe would be lost

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It's easy to mock when it's caricaturized. And, so is the ”War is peace" position when taken to the extremes by perma-hawks, who've never seen a problem that couldn't be solved with an explosion. As often, the solution lies in the middle. We do need strength as deterrent, but over-focus on this leads to an infinitely escalating need for more strength. But let's be clear: war is illegitimate. That we have not found a…

War in self-defense is perfectly legitimate. If someone is attacking you, you have the right to fight back. Note well: I am not saying that all claims of "we're fighting in self-defense" are legitimate.

That's exactly why a country-that-shall-not-be-named does its best to frame itself as the victim, 24/7, even though it's a provable reality that they started the conflict.

Everybody knows that nobody looks favorable at aggressors but they still want land / resources / whatever so they wage an information war to make themselves look better.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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No the ones with less scruples are cutting the drug supply with harmful stuff including but not limited to xylazine and fentanyl/nitazene analogs

Because it much better to die from clean overdose? That's like saying, I kill people with a clean knife, I don't want them to get an infection from a dirty blade.

Overdose is less likely to happen with an unadulterated product because the dosage can actually be measured. You can't measure a dose with a product of unknown concentration. The dose response curves and ED50s are known for all of these substances but people keep dying because they don't actually know how much they're taking

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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It doesn't work great to consider war illegitimate when rival nations do not.

The argument I'm making is a little more nuanced than the world, and certainly HN, likes these days. I'm not suggesting that we just declare it illegitimate and lay down our arms. I'm suggesting that the mantra, "if you want peace then prepare for war" rests on the premise that war is a legitimate way to resolve conflict. And, once you've made that decision, it becomes effectively the only way, and guarantees more wa…

Fair point.

Re: 'I'm the new Oppenheimer ': Palantir's first-ever AI warfare conference

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As dismissive as I am of the last presidents constant prodding of a "deep state" conspiracy, is it really any question that such a group exists? And in case rhetorical questions are lost on this site, the answer is no, and its not appropriate to mock. Practically we know working in companies "leadership" only has a vague capability to steer the sheep, and that control becomes more and more vague every day. It seems t…

> is it really any question that such a group exists? Yes, there are many questions. Cultures emerge in any organization, and the U.S. government is known to be bureaucratic. But, acknowledging this is a far cry from sowing blanket distrust via facile allusions to some vague, vast, unseemly conspiracy that has still not been defined. These charges side-step important questions, such as: who specifically are these peo…

Days later seeing this, I just wanted to clear up a thing.

> the former president who manufactured the charges you're repeating

Trump complained that the "deep state" was thwarting his efforts. I don't think he manufactured that in the least, and I don't think him being frustrated by the rank and file of the government was a bad thing.

> who specifically are these people?

I think when you look at who the intelligence community is staffed by (high number of mormons for instance), life long diplomats and civil servants, I think you're looking at people who get a frustrating and thankless job for often lower pay than the corporate world, and they do so out of a sense of duty, out of a true belief in the trappings and history of the American experiment. I think you have a group who cares about democracy, who cares about the longevity of this nation. More than average anyway.

Just because I think there is something we can refer to as the "deep state", something most definitely not FUD or nonsense, doesn't mean I agree with the cheeto. I think it did a damn good job trying to limit the damage that kleptocratic traitor could do in his 4 year term.

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