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Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Re: Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by pixl97 »

sangnoir wrote: post #101
epolanski wrote: post #82

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Comments like this make me wonder whether I'm on reddit or HN. The future trajectory of AI isn't tied to Nvidia's stock in the same way the web didn't thrive or die on Cisco being the most valuable company in the world 24 years ago.

Perhaps not in general, but if the barrier of entry is radically lowered - such as if a new technique that drastically lowers the compute required for training is discovered - then Nvidia and a whole host of startups will lose lot of value. A lot of the positions assumes LLMs will remain SotA in the foreseeable future, which is not a bet I'd take. Even if that doesn't happen, there will be a lot of consolidation and…

If the barrier to entry is lowered I don't see Nvidia losing a dime... Jevons paradox tells us that further massive amounts of training will occur in multi-modality and grounding models to reality. That would then kick off the race to true reasoning and AGI/ASI, and if achieved, all bets are off after that point.

If no training breakthrough occurs, then your second option is much more likely.

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Post by pixl97 »

weard_beard wrote: post #110
fallat wrote: post #84

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Yeah what. That guy above you is absolutely blind.

AI is more like Apple and less like the internet. Your rabid fanaticism is what convinces me of its value… not it’s actual value.

"Intelligence isn't valuable" --Guy on HN.

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Post by blackguardx »

hipadev23 wrote: post #115
mupuff1234 wrote: post #53

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And probably all of the big tech CEOs are trying to get him on the phone right now.

That would be highly irresponsible of them to hire someone who went directly against leadership with an attempted coup. Stability will most likely make him CEO.

He was on the board! He was leadership!

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Post by freedomben »

tempsy wrote: post #93
htrp wrote: post #43

Ilya will literally have a blank check from almost all the VC's in the industry.

Well, no. No VC who wants anything to do with OpenAI would invest in Ilya. Ilya represents the anti-OpenAI ethos. So it would only be a VC who would be comfortable publicly being an anti-OpenAI VC, which is not that many.

> Ilya represents the anti-OpenAI ethos.

Can you elaborate more on this? What are some of the things the anti-OpenAI ethos stands for? And why do you think Ilya represents that given he was such a major part of OpenAI for so long?

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Post by blibble »

mikeg8 wrote: post #107
zombiwoof wrote: post #73

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Altman is the biggest con artist in tech.

Exactly. He’s only founded and led a company that’s built some of the most easily adoptable and exciting innovations in human-computer interactions in the last decade. Total fraud!

and which company would that be?

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Post by twodave »

weard_beard wrote: post #110
fallat wrote: post #84

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Yeah what. That guy above you is absolutely blind.

AI is more like Apple and less like the internet. Your rabid fanaticism is what convinces me of its value… not it’s actual value.

Not all AI is hype. We are just surrounded by so much AI hype it’s easy to forget things like Co-pilot didn’t exist just a couple years ago. To say there’s no value in having an assistant to write code at your direction is incorrect.

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Post by tempsy »

freedomben wrote: post #125
tempsy wrote: post #93

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Well, no. No VC who wants anything to do with OpenAI would invest in Ilya. Ilya represents the anti-OpenAI ethos. So it would only be a VC who would be comfortable publicly being an anti-OpenAI VC, which is not that many.

> Ilya represents the anti-OpenAI ethos. Can you elaborate more on this? What are some of the things the anti-OpenAI ethos stands for? And why do you think Ilya represents that given he was such a major part of OpenAI for so long?

Am I taking crazy pills or something? Because he was the one who tried to oust Sam like 6 months ago? Did we just all forget that or what?

Again, why would any VC give Ilya money if that in any way signals that they are supporting someone who tried to oust the CEO of OpenAI from within? They wouldn't.

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Post by anonzzzies »

TechDebtDevin wrote: post #91
localfirst wrote: post #61

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Enterprise customers are building their own internal tools, doesn't mean "AI" is dead. It just means useless API wrappers aren't the golden ticket.

A bit of a cooldown on api wrappers would be good. All these crappy startups which have no more value than just gpt4/opus are bizarre. Can’t believe any of them are doing real money.
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