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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by mrguyorama »

nicklecompte wrote: post #90
aeurielesn wrote: post #86

To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

I would never purchase this myself, but it seems most people are buying it as a toy or trinket, not as a productivity device. I can't judge them too much considering how much actual grownup money I've spent on Legos...

In 20 years your Legos will still function just fine, can be re-used, can be passed down to new kids or new owners, can be integrated in other things etc...

In 5 years this thing will be poisoning some small trash picking child in Africa somewhere.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by refulgentis »

gipp wrote: post #81
refulgentis wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many layers of stubborn ppl acting confused at this point. The hardware is the hardware because they wanted to make hardware. People bought they hardware because they wanted hardware.

? I'm not confused about anything, I'm explaining why it's a terrible decision. People aren't buying it (at least not now that it's actually out and reviewed, pre orders aside), not just because it's stand-alone hardware but that certainly isn't helping matters.

You're right, and I agree vehemently about the poor quality as well as if you're planning on taking a big swing, better to start with an app.

Bizarrely, my 5 year plan was exactly what they did, but step 1 is release a cross-platform app and get it reliable as possible while waiting for an AI level up.

Releasing an app, especially when they're trying to get ahead of the game and are staffed and funded to do so, would beg the question "Why do just an app? It's the same as ChatGPT, which is free."

The reviews are bad, they're certainly not on the precipice of selling a million units. but they had a ton of preorders and the strategy worked, they're in the conversation, names out there, and they'll be forever associated with AI hardware. A GPT wrapper app with the same level of coverage would get the same general reaction we're seeing now. A GPT wrapper app with the coverage a wrapper app gets would get much less attention.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by [deleted] »

mrguyorama wrote: post #121
nicklecompte wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would never purchase this myself, but it seems most people are buying it as a toy or trinket, not as a productivity device. I can't judge them too much considering how much actual grownup money I've spent on Legos...

In 20 years your Legos will still function just fine, can be re-used, can be passed down to new kids or new owners, can be integrated in other things etc... In 5 years this thing will be poisoning some small trash picking child in Africa somewhere.

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by turtlebits »

doix wrote: post #102

So as far as I can tell, this is a pay $200 once and use AI infinitely device. Are the keys inside the APK? What's stopping someone just using these guys OpenAI (or whatever they use) service for free?

As a rushed/unfinished product, I'd be highly skeptical if there was any form of security. Might get implemented once someone abuses it.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by s3r3nity »

turtlebits wrote: post #124
doix wrote: post #102

So as far as I can tell, this is a pay $200 once and use AI infinitely device. Are the keys inside the APK? What's stopping someone just using these guys OpenAI (or whatever they use) service for free?

As a rushed/unfinished product, I'd be highly skeptical if there was any form of security. Might get implemented once someone abuses it.

> As a rushed/unfinished product

What led you to believe it was rushed and/or unfinished?

I agree with the sentiment that it's a _bad_ product with _bad_ choices and _bad_ strategy. It was likely caused by shitty ZIRP-era "MVP product without the 'viable'" mentality, rather than caused by rushing an unfinished product.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by omnimus »

jsheard wrote: post #118
extesy wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly doubt Teenage Engineering is looking to be acquired.

Teenage Engineering aren't the ones who would be acquired, they just did the industrial design work on contract for Rabbit. The same way TE designed the Playdate but it's not a TE product.

Its amazing TE has such a brand that people think these are their products.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by tb1989 »

datpiff wrote: post #109
tb1989 wrote: post #87

Doesn't surprise me. In my opinion, many companies try to achieve outrageous premiums by taking the route of teen engineering (the originator of hype). In addition to rabbit, there is also a series of nothing products. This doesn't convince the tech fetishists. In fact, I think te's contribution to music is very limited, even harmful, especially when I see the latest Yamaha even imitating te, which feels a bit funny…

I don't like most of TE's output but the OP-1 is definitely innovative.

as innovative as rabbit r1

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by jsheard »

omnimus wrote: post #126
jsheard wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teenage Engineering aren't the ones who would be acquired, they just did the industrial design work on contract for Rabbit. The same way TE designed the Playdate but it's not a TE product.

Its amazing TE has such a brand that people think these are their products.

You'd definitely know if it were TE's own product because the price would have an extra zero on the end.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by jibe »

tb1989 wrote: post #87

Doesn't surprise me. In my opinion, many companies try to achieve outrageous premiums by taking the route of teen engineering (the originator of hype). In addition to rabbit, there is also a series of nothing products. This doesn't convince the tech fetishists. In fact, I think te's contribution to music is very limited, even harmful, especially when I see the latest Yamaha even imitating te, which feels a bit funny…

I don't why it should surprise, or bother, anyone that it is running android. Totally reasonable choice. What does it say that it is treated like some sort of gotcha? Were they supposed to build their own AIOS?

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

asadm wrote: post #14
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The scam is that the hardware is unnecessary, expensive, and strictly worse than just using your phone.

Market isn't an optimization problem. Market can decide what is necessary or isn't. I would pick this up for $200 if the models were running locally.

They don’t though. And if they did, it would cost more than $200. Like, say, a phone.
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