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Not having any communications at all puts you at a massive disadvantage when opposing people who do. Absolutely no revolutions were ever accomplished by improvisational means.
Yet communicating in person is communicating. Anyhow, a combination of the two is likely best. It won't really help though, "back in the day" every movement had a few police informants in the mix. There's less of that now with electronic monitoring, and 24x7 tracking, but a totalitarian state likely has more of that mix. Heck a bunch of crooks tried to rob my house, and were caught not only due to having their phones…
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Briar is awesome. Ive used it to talk to my wife when we are seated away from each other in planes or trains and cant get up, via bluetooth due to lack of service, wifi, or because of airplane mode.
Is that on Android or iOS? I continue to be frustrated by having to use the plane's satellite internet connection (not always free) to message somebody sitting two rows away from me, so this would be great.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet communicating in person is communicating. Anyhow, a combination of the two is likely best. It won't really help though, "back in the day" every movement had a few police informants in the mix. There's less of that now with electronic monitoring, and 24x7 tracking, but a totalitarian state likely has more of that mix. Heck a bunch of crooks tried to rob my house, and were caught not only due to having their phones…
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https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40184481 was another recent bad case. Please don't that any more.
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It's not like anyone minds that when it is actually serious: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68840881 In fact there's protests happening all over that seek to PROTECT the people who do this. And it's not like this is the first time THIS WEEK this happened. Also they're still holding several European academics to get the terrorist who killed several hundred people attacking the Bataclan in Paris and Brussel…
> there's protests happening all over that seek to PROTECT the people who do this The protests are about protecting Gazan civilians, not Iranian security forces, which are different sets of people existing independently of one another. But of course you know that.
If these protests are about protecting civilians (of course, never ANY mention of protecting Israeli civilians from Hamas, that's not worth complaining about), I "somehow" missed it.
The "demands" seen everywhere in those protests. Just imagine a Jew would protest with a demand to drive muslims out of historical mosques ... But demands to drive Jews away from the wailing wall is perfectly reasonable, apparently. Nothing racist here!
Most of all perhaps, after 10 years of "you can't react against individuals because of what a country is doing", the constant actions taken against Jews and Israeli by all these protests seem EXTREMELY hypocritical. The outright racism outpouring these protests are, first, causing, and, secondly, accepting racism as if it doesn't matter. This, after decades of raging demands to stay kilometers away from anything that might look racist. Well, here's stating the obvious: these protests look racist. And not a little bit.
If anyone on the progressive side wants to accuse anyone else of religiously motivated racism in the next 50 years, they're going to get these protests thrown in their faces as proof that the progressive left are raging racists. And that complaint will be ... sorry, but that complaint will be accurate. These protests will affect a great many lives for decades, and almost universally negatively. How can anyone who likes these protests complain about a decision maker that "doesn't trust muslims anymore?", without BEING a complete hypocrite?
The next time someone demands that universities stop all cooperation with any university in any islamic country, what will you say? Trump only has to utter the words and it will take 50 years to repair the damage. And even if it's not Trump, obviously this demand will come.
Plus you're not going to say that you haven't personally caught the Palestinian side in an outright lie. Like the famous hospital "rocket strike". Even what's on the BBC when it comes to Gaza is bullshit [1] [2]. Have you failed to notice the completely different arabic ("we will win" or even "we'll kill all the jews") press messaging on Al Jazeera for example, vs their english reporting?
[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233
[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67216929
Note that the BBC reprinted Hamas propaganda without thinking. EVERYTHING about the printed BBC claims was wrong:
a) the rocket didn't do anywhere near the claimed damage (it made some cars dirty, destroyed maybe ONE car)
b) did not kill anyone at all, certainly not 471 people
c) and hurt ... maybe just a single person (who got shrapnel from a window in his hand, not exactly a life threatening injury)
d) the rocket was not fired by Israel, but by Palestinian terrorists from directly next to the hospital
e) The BBC did not present any doubt in their reporting, despite knowing the report was Hamas propaganda. The BBC reported a failed attack by Hamas by directly accusing Israel of, purposefully, killing Palestinian children in a hospital. What I'm saying is, this reporting did not carefully, unintentionally cross the line. This is utter, raging lunacy. If Israeli's complain this report was "blood libel" ... well, sorry to say, but that's exactly what it was.
Hell, it was worse in at least one way. The Soviets never actually committed the crimes they accused Jews of in "the protocols". Hamas did commit the crimes they accuse Israel of. There have been allegations of this before, even allegations Hamas committed warcrimes against their own people JUST to accuse Israel of those crimes.
... and of course everyone participated. The UN's secretary general repeated this propaganda!
up to this point EVERYTHING about the BBC report would have been extremely obvious to the reporter on the ground. It was BBC employees purposefully lying.
So, no, forgive me for saying that this is very much not about truth or justice, they are about killing Israeli. Nothing else.
f) the rocket didn't explode (the first thing that MIGHT not have been obvious to the BBC reporter). It started rotating, dumped it's fuel and "rapid unscheduled disassembly" occurred.
g) And, lastly, note the titles the BBC chose to use. To report the wrong information "Hundreds feared dead at Gaza hospital as Israel denies strike", to report that their information was incredibly inaccurate they waited NINE DAYS (and the dates on the articles are TEN days apart), and the title of that "retraction" was "Gaza hospital blast: What does new analysis tell us?"
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Is the new product funded by In-q-tel as well?
You do know In-q-tel has invested in things that people use in the day to day, including Google Earth (originally created by Keyhole). DARPA kick-started the semi-autonomous vehicle industry with two of their Grand Challenges in the 2000s. The US Navy helped develop what would become Tor also in the early 2000s....
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#126Re: FireChat was a tool for revolution, then disappeared
#127Hi there, I am on developement team of Newnode, a successor of FireChat founded by two of the same people ( https://www.newnode.com/ ). We now provide both, a VPN and a Messenger, with purpose to help people evade censorship and enable device-to-device connectivity. You can find the source code at https://github.com/clostra/newnode
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