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Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by ergonaught »

HDPDV wrote: post #93
LastNevadan wrote: post #78

I'm amazed that CdC is still around. I remember dialing into their BBS, Demon Roach Underground, in the mid 80s. That was nearly forty years ago! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Roach_Underground

The phone number is seared into my brain for life, I think. I can't remember my girlfriend's phone number, but the number of BBSs I called 30+ years ago? That's stuck in there until the day I die.

Can’t remember the last time I called Ripco or Lunatic Labs but I still know their numbers better than any other phone numbers, including my own.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by andoando »

jeroenhd wrote: post #51

I had high hopes for Veilid when it was unveiled (ha) but I stopped hearing about it soon after it was published online. Veilid Chat didn't really seem to work once I found the source code and except for a few "hello world" networking programs I haven't seen anything use the protocol yet. The official website doesn't seem to be getting any updates anymore. A shame, because this has a lot to offer, in my opinion.

The issue as I see it is free open source software can't normally compete with commercial simply because it relies on the good will of developers to contribute. People need money to live, most of us can't dedicate hours a day to working on something like this. For every 20 devs you can get to do this theres a 1000+ working for the commercial equivalent.

We need a paid, non corporate model, not free.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by jilijeanlouis »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #58
marcosdumay wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When was the last time... Or rather, when have you ever seen a framework-based page with accessibility done correctly?

I have seen many sites scoring well on various accessibility metrics. There’s no inherent technical limitation of frameworks that would make accessibility impossible, even when dealing with text to speech. We will see many more next year with EAA coming into effect (and many European companies do care about compliance).

Despite regulation I don’t Believe it will actually get implemented even governments have regulations around audio accessibility for education in particular, for years now, and still nothing moves.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by kmbfjr »

elzbardico wrote: post #98
klaussilveira wrote: post #61

The amount of people in this comment section, on "Hacker News", that are completely oblivious to one of the most iconic groups of hacker culture is... depressing. I wonder how can we spread more zeitgeist about it to newer generations?

A frequently overlooked issue about Gen-X online culture is that it was always have on gatekeeping, snobbism and hierarchy. It is not surprising that newer generations don't know it, because at this time, people did the most to keep things on their small clubs of initiated folks, newbies NOT welcome. Frankly, millenials and zoomer have a far more open and welcoming approach, and probably their culture will survive be…

The world was a smaller place back then. At the onset of this culture, a lot of it was built on avoiding the costs of reaching out to the next city (toll phone calls).

Their culture will be derided and discarded, just like all those before them.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by elzbardico »

elzbardico wrote: post #98
klaussilveira wrote: post #61

The amount of people in this comment section, on "Hacker News", that are completely oblivious to one of the most iconic groups of hacker culture is... depressing. I wonder how can we spread more zeitgeist about it to newer generations?

A frequently overlooked issue about Gen-X online culture is that it was always have on gatekeeping, snobbism and hierarchy. It is not surprising that newer generations don't know it, because at this time, people did the most to keep things on their small clubs of initiated folks, newbies NOT welcome. Frankly, millenials and zoomer have a far more open and welcoming approach, and probably their culture will survive be…

have on = heavy on.

Re: Cult of the Dead Cow – Veilid (2023)

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Post by beaugunderson »

HDPDV wrote: post #93
LastNevadan wrote: post #78

I'm amazed that CdC is still around. I remember dialing into their BBS, Demon Roach Underground, in the mid 80s. That was nearly forty years ago! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Roach_Underground

The phone number is seared into my brain for life, I think. I can't remember my girlfriend's phone number, but the number of BBSs I called 30+ years ago? That's stuck in there until the day I die.

RaT CiTY in Seattle had 24-666-47 and that'll be in my brain forever too...
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