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IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by pjmlp »

hinkley wrote: post #83
pjmlp wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jumped on the Java boat alongside Sun and Oracle, pivoting from Smalltalk into Java, contributions to the Linux kernel since 2000's, collaborations with Apple and Sony, helped porting Go toolchain into their micro and mainframes, acquired Red-Hat thus indirect contributions to all major Linux projects that Red-Hat works on,...

They did a lot of different experiments with JIT as well, though I don’t know how much made it into other toolchains. In particular J9 was a sort of moral equivalent of PyPy. On the downside they are materially responsible/accomplices to the crimes that are J2EE and XML ALL THE THINGS.

J2EE was created by Sun, based on a Objective-C framework.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Objects_Everywhe...

JSON and YAML keep trying to re-invent the nice tooling ecosystem from XML, badly.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by pjmlp »

igouy wrote: post #120
vram22 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in the day I read that Eclipse was based on an IBM IDE for Smalltalk called VisualAge, which they ported to VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. A while ago, so some details may be wrong.

"… IBM VisualAge for Smalltalk and IBM VisualAge for Java. Both of these products were written in Smalltalk. The IBM VisualAge Micro Edition product was the first serious and actually quite successful experiment with writing the entire IDE in Java. Many concepts found in Eclipse have been tried out in that product already. However, for third parties, it proved difficult to extend the product with new components … A s…

One of those experts, Erich Gamma, is the main VSCode architect.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by resizeitplz »

sylens wrote: post #123

If you were looking to standardize on IaC today, after reading this news - would you go with Terraform or OpenTofu? I honestly can't get a good read on how this will affect the future of Terraform.

Pulumi, cloudformation/arm-bicep, etc?

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by vram22 »

vram22 wrote: post #110
pjmlp wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jumped on the Java boat alongside Sun and Oracle, pivoting from Smalltalk into Java, contributions to the Linux kernel since 2000's, collaborations with Apple and Sony, helped porting Go toolchain into their micro and mainframes, acquired Red-Hat thus indirect contributions to all major Linux projects that Red-Hat works on,...

Back in the day I read that Eclipse was based on an IBM IDE for Smalltalk called VisualAge, which they ported to VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. A while ago, so some details may be wrong.

>VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk.

Whoops! What a brain fart, or cosmic ray effect, or whatever :)

I meant to write:

>VisualAge for Java, which became Eclipse.

It was still possible to edit and correct my previous comment, but since people had replied already, I decided to correct myself in a reply to my own comment above.

Thanks, guys, for pointing out the mistake.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by vram22 »

kibibu wrote: post #116
vram22 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in the day I read that Eclipse was based on an IBM IDE for Smalltalk called VisualAge, which they ported to VisualAge for Java, which became Smalltalk. A while ago, so some details may be wrong.

VisualAge for Smalltalk came first. Smalltalk (70s) came long before both Java (90s) and Visual Age (80s).

Yes, I noticed my error above, and corrected it, thanks to you, in a reply to myself.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by vram22 »

pjmlp wrote: post #122
igouy wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"… IBM VisualAge for Smalltalk and IBM VisualAge for Java. Both of these products were written in Smalltalk. The IBM VisualAge Micro Edition product was the first serious and actually quite successful experiment with writing the entire IDE in Java. Many concepts found in Eclipse have been tried out in that product already. However, for third parties, it proved difficult to extend the product with new components … A s…

One of those experts, Erich Gamma, is the main VSCode architect.

Wow.

One of the GoF guys, too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Gamma

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by thayne »

nimbius wrote: post #75
sneed_chucker wrote: post #6

Wasn't on my bingo card, that's for sure. Say what you will about big blue, they repeatedly seem to know who to acquire in order to buy themselves another 10 years of relevance.

Please file in a calm and orderly fashion toward the exits and remember: IBM killed Centos for profit. Terraform users can pick up their new alternative here: https://opentofu.org/ and for those of you with Vault, you can find your new alternative here: https://openbao.org/

What about Packer? Vagrant? Consul?

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by wmf »

Axsuul wrote: post #100
wmf wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would predict that IBM will cancel Consul and Nomad completely to focus on k8s.

If so, Consul → OpenCabbage, Nomad → OpenNoodle

If the community hasn't already forked it implies that there isn't enough community interest to continue development. We should be skeptical of any "pity forks" that happen later.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by andrenth »

nimbius wrote: post #75
sneed_chucker wrote: post #6

Wasn't on my bingo card, that's for sure. Say what you will about big blue, they repeatedly seem to know who to acquire in order to buy themselves another 10 years of relevance.

Please file in a calm and orderly fashion toward the exits and remember: IBM killed Centos for profit. Terraform users can pick up their new alternative here: https://opentofu.org/ and for those of you with Vault, you can find your new alternative here: https://openbao.org/

Is someone working on a Nomad fork?
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