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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Post by criddell »

burnte wrote: post #76
crmd wrote: post #28

I wonder if this "opening" of the operating system is their way of putting the metaverse project out to pasture - analogous to donating it to the Apache Foundation - without admitting that the company burned $36 billion on a misadventure.

This is them doing that but also trying to do what Android did, capture the bulk of the market and leave the ultra-ridiculously-high-end to Apple.

So create a big market where nobody makes much money to compete with Apple's smaller market that captures absurd margins?

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Post by PaulHoule »

vineyardmike wrote: post #70
graypegg wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using the name « horizon » without showing Horizon Worlds at all definitely hints at Horizon Worlds being a side social feature of the Horizon OS, versus this being an OS specifically FOR the horizon worlds metaverse. Meta/Facebook really has trouble with focus, I hope they can pick 1 vision for VR.

I think they have the most focus out of any big tech company. They have like 4 products. They’re trying to build a platform to build VR experiences on. That’s clearly their goal. Horizon Worlds is “just an app” to show that off. It’s a “hero use case”.

I looked at it seriously for content authoring but gave it up.

The big problem is you cannot import images, textures, 3-d models and such from ordinary tools. You have something like constructive solid geometry to work with but only so much and there is a slider you can use to set the number of players and the more players the less geometry you can use.

I want to make worlds based on photographs (particularly pano and stereo) and art. McDonalds needs to put a Coca-Cola logo on the side of the cup. Either way it is a non-starter.

HW supports collaboration (more than one person shares the world) but https://aframe.io/ lets me make the content I want. If I have to choose one or the other I am going to pick the second.

My take on Meta Quest is that it seems highly successful as a gaming environment based on an app store but is skews towards single-player experiences. Like a lot of AAA games, the excellent Asgard’s Wrath 2 has some multiplayer tacked on but it is all meaningless like leaderboards and the occasional ghost that shows up in a procedurally generated dungeon.

Of course, Meta wants to make multiplayer experiences but somehow they just can’t do it.

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Post by bevekspldnw »

romanhn wrote: post #43
crmd wrote: post #28

I wonder if this "opening" of the operating system is their way of putting the metaverse project out to pasture - analogous to donating it to the Apache Foundation - without admitting that the company burned $36 billion on a misadventure.

I'm guessing it's the opposite. Meta is trying to establish the same OS-level foothold/control that Microsoft, Apple and Google have.

Exactly, at the root a lot of this about ATT.

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

A new OS will be interesting ONLY if Meta commits to certain policies that Microsoft and Apple have violated. Users should be able to use their devices without any telemetry or phoning home. They should be able to install any software they want from any source. They should not be forced to make payments only through Meta’s services. Etc.

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Post by Culonavirus »

crmd wrote: post #28

I wonder if this "opening" of the operating system is their way of putting the metaverse project out to pasture - analogous to donating it to the Apache Foundation - without admitting that the company burned $36 billion on a misadventure.

> the company burned $36 billion on a misadventure

Watch out, the VR mafia is gonna get ya!

Seriously though, any well informed and level headed person could see this coming a mile away. Apparently, such people are in short supply at Meta.

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Post by lagniappe »

danavar wrote: post #88
EVyesnoyesnoyes wrote: post #14

I would really love to see proper educational content from Meta but i bet this is not were the 'next money thing' is. Imagine a catalog of proper real life skills you can actually train reasonable good: - cooking - soldering - welding - Tons of woodworking things - ... You could also go to a lot of makers of tools and offer them to digitalize their products for them so someone can actually exercise with a cheap to su…

A previous company I worked at was using mixed reality years ago (>4) to train manufacturing operators on manufacturing processes. It ended up looking like a simulated workbench with low-detail models of CAD parts that needed to be assembled - it was pretty cool. Engineering companies are very ready for this technology.

A local school here trains nurses in a VR environment that is situated inside a fully built out wing of a hospital. The headsets come down from the ceiling, all the equipment is real, but there are dummies in the beds, and some observation screens for others who supervise.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Post by woopsn »

neverokay wrote: post #119
woopsn wrote: post #109

I know I'm fighting the overwhelming tide here, but what the hell is "mixed reality"? What is "the metaverse"? For that matter what is "artificial intelligence"? Stop trying to dazzle and just use words, if the technology is revolutionary then it will be. An automobile is not the magic carpet, a cell phone is not a soulmate, etc. Otherwise fuck it -- TV is virtual reality, getting high augmented reality, TI-84 calcul…

We are like gamers that no longer perceive the improvement in graphics across generations. Talk to Siri and then talk to ChatGPT if you are feeling that clueless.

I do. I've said it before too -- I like that they called it a "generative pretrained transformer" aka GPT.
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